sheepdog

22 LR -- CCI Stinger 32 gr. HP -- 191 ft. lbs.
22 LR -- CCI MiniMag 40 gr. Lead RN -- 135 ft. lbs.
25 acp -- Hornady 35 gr. XTP HP -- 63 ft. lbs.
32 acp -- Hornady 60 gr. XTP HP -- 133 ft. lbs.
380 acp -- Hornady 90 gr. XTP HP -- 200 ft. lbs.

...all things considered, of the 5 I'd rather have the Stingers...

Bountyhunter

Give me the 380.

sheepdog

...in a gun big enough to control the recoil...but I'd have no recoil at all...much prefer a .22 High Standard Snub 9-shot or a Beretta 21 to a PPK/S .380....you've got the smaller, lighter LCP...how's the recoil and control for second and later shots???

Bountyhunter

I can empty it pretty quick and keep it on a man sized target. I would think that it would take some work for someone with less experience with guns. It is snappy, and isn't reall accurate rapid fire past 5 yards. It probably could be with lots of practice. I figure, it's a 380, it's not made for a fire fight at 20-30 yards. It's a point blank self defense gun and nothing more.

sheepdog

...I look at a 2" J the same way...it ain't made for target shooting, but to get 'em off your back...

Bountyhunter

Exactly. I ain't going zombie hunting with it, but it's nice to have in my pocket, incase the zombies are doing the hunting.

44s Rock

44s Rock

Where would the 22 mag fall in the mix?

Taurus_9mm

All I know is I wouldn't want to be shot by any of them, even the lowly .25 ACP.

sheepdog

... in the right gun-I'd choose it over the .380...like the HS 3" 9-shot revolver...

kim

I remember reading somewhere that the .22mag has the same muzzle energy of a .38 spl.

Molon Labe

Kim

44s Rock

CCI Info
Velocity, ft/sec Load No. Caliber Muzzle 25 50 75 100
0024 22 Win Mag 1875 1719 1574 1438 1319
0059 22 Win Mag 2200 1967 1749 1551 1375
0060 22 Win Mag 2050 1840 1648 1471 1317
0063 22 Win Mag 2200 1977 1768 1577 1405
0073 22 Win Mag 2200 2029 1866 1714 1571

Energy, ft-lbs Load No. Caliber Muzzle 25 50 75 100
0024 22 Win Mag 312 263 220 184 155
0059 22 Win Mag 322 258 204 160 126
0060 22 Win Mag 280 226 181 144 116
0063 22 Win Mag 322 260 208 166 131
0073 22 Win Mag 322 274 232 196 164

44s Rock

I think I'm liking my little Sentinal.

Bountyhunter

I think I would prefer a 9 shot 22 mag revolver over the 380acp. Less likely to jam and the 22 mag round I think would be just as effective. Plus 2 more rounds.

sheepdog

...I think you're right...no recoil...easier to hit with....I carried a Nickle-plated High Standard 3" Sentinel MK4, I think it was in my boot for awhile...wish I had it back...trigger stacked badly but still fine for SD...you can find them in pawnshops occasionally...even a child could handle it...Taurus may make one...don't know...

44s Rock

Had both from my Dad. Had one stolen so replaced it with the other, I go the both when he passed, couldn't hardly tell then apart.

sheepdog

...for someone with weak wrists or bad arthritis....22 Mag might be the best answer...

Machinist

sheepdog

...weak, not limp...I see all the California influence ain't scrubbed off yet...to the showers with ya!!!!