deputy125

of course the trend that developed over time was the speed loader for revolvers which led to the barrel pouch instead of the flat compact dump pouch. But speed loader cases are bulky for ccw most of the time.

Speed strips carried in a pocket do help out. But the other day when i was in a surplus store, i saw they had a small collection of good ole' fashioned dump pouches in double and single set-up. And i got to thinking.......

sure, they are slow as molasses to use. But in today's world, i dare say that 99% of the public and 90% of LEO's probably would not reconize one for what they are if openly displayed on a belt. most would likely think nothing of one other than a pager case or some other type carrier.

So a feller could put a couple of dump pouches on his belt and keep his shirt tucked in while pocket carrying some revolvers.

Dump pouches or 2x2x2 pouches......I know they are considered old and obselete technology......and a forgoten relic of the past. But "forgotten" would be the key advantage as in unreconizable and therefore a hide in plain sight for xtra ammo. Nothing to "offend" or alarm the public for this ammo carry. Less attention............which is what i want in ccw.

just another option. they come in various styles and designs for function such as swing down, snap, and velcro..........wish i would had kept mine from back then....

here are some examples
http://www.bostonleather.com/UMSS.cfm?p ... ename=Home

Machinist

Deputy,
I agree with you. I can't hide speed loaders unless I'm wearing a heavy coat and in that case I can carry a heavier gun. I like a belt slide with loops so I can top up the revolver after a few rounds. I like the 2x2x2 pouches as well. The full tip down dump pouch is like the speed loader and good for a full reload but does not seem flexible enough unless combined with one of the others like the loops. I carried a speed strip in a package in my shirt pocket and it is a decent way to carry extra ammo but the belt loops are much faster for a quick reload or top up. I may look for a 2x2x2 pouch. I am familiar with them but have not seen one in a long time and thought they were gone.

deputy125

boston leather still has 2x2x2 and dump pouches.

gould and goodrich once upon a time had some nice ones and there are some on ebay..............but apparently discontinued stock as the gould site no longer lists them.

mine was a safriland that was a combo of snap and velcro that tipped down and had a hard mold interior......sure was flat and out of the way......discontinued.

simply rugged has some variations but they appear to be designed more for speed strips than anything........

galco does and they are high dollar
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPT2.asp

Bountyhunter

I like the dump pouches better than speed loaders for CCW. If I carried a revolver I'd use one of them or a belt slide with an extra 6 rounds.

I don't know about for ccw but this dump pouch works great for hunting.a easy way to carry a extra 6 rounds of 45 colt.

sheepdog

...where'd you get that pouch, Pete??? I like the closure....I use speedstrips exclusively...round speedloaders in my pockets often opened and I got rid of 'em all...I carry three speedstrips with .44 in 'em in a zip pouch in my back pocket...a fourth in a clip pouch clipped IWB in front...quick enough...

...I disagree about dumpers or 2x2 openly carried on the belt...it hain't been long enough that most folks wouldn't notice what they were...most LEOS would snap to it immediately...but under a long-tailed shirt...fine...I'd use a speed strip in the dumpers...rather than having it come open and dump loose shells or having to fumble...just pull a tab of 6 out at once worked better for me in the 70s...now an alternative approach is to hit the pawn shops for a small camera case nylon with a belt loop sewn on it...put 4-8 speed strips in it and wear it either under a shirt or openly....and it IS a camera case...I've seen plenty sturdy and tie a thong on the zipper to grab it open with...they might guess at it but wouldn't make it for a bullet carrier......might also suit you to carry 4-6 clips for your auto...

the same guy that made my holster for the bisley made the dump pouch.upside down just hit it with your thumb and it dumps the ammo right in your hand.that said speed loading a bisley with a pig chasing you could be fun

deputy125

i don't know..........we have these new generation officers who have never fired a revolver in their lives.........and sadly they are not really part of the gun culture. Handguns for them is just a tool and nothing more.

The older officers might reconize....but i doubt many of the younger officers would. The bottom feeders dominance has over-shadowed revolvers for a couple of decades.

sheepdog

...yeah, and I know...where have I been? I need a time machine to catch up with the "modern" age...another thing that's gone is a leather pouch lined with clear vinyl and a spring flat hinged closure that you could squeeze open and it would self-close...it was about 4x7 and brown or black...had a wide loop on it...they called it a Creed ammo pouch...would have been great for loose ammo, speed strips, clips, or even 3-4 HKS-type loaders...I think they were about $7 when I bought one...gone...

jody johnson

...by golly, I remember them dump pouches! They were, when first introduced, the "next step up" from the standard "loop slides" which was th' commonplace ammo carrier on th' "Sam Browne belt". You had six spare rounds if you worked a "slow" area or twelve if otherwise!

...Think I might just have an old dump pouch...or two...somewhere...

deputy125

i had a loop slide.........of course i had to have them nickel cases for corrision resistance plus they looked good....back when i cared what i looked like...

But it was indeed handy for drills that required topping off instead of a complete reload.

jody johnson

Yeah, I had th' loop slide also....from '69 up into th' eighties. Used th' dump pouch, when available, on a plainclothes rig called th' "Jackass rig". I first used speedloaders in the late eighties, probably 87 or 88...Man, now THEY was fancy!

Been lotsa changes in gear n' guns...but...I still am, and will always be...a WHEELGUN GUY!!!! ( even tho' we gotta carry a slidegun fer work!).

And sadly, Deputy, I fear you're "on th' money" with your observation that many younger Officers...and recreational shooters...have yet to discover th' joy of a smooth wheelgun...alas!

Snuffy

The needed for more fire power is what the new leo say they need? Is this really true or is it that they need to be able to shoot straight and hit the mark? Its not the amount of fire power so much as it is they can hit the mark. I personally don't see the need for any leo to have full auto of any kind, spray and pray well that is just great just what I don't want in my neck of the woods.
I more than understand that they do need to be able to do their job, but they really need to be able to shoot and shoot well. Hard thing to do when your being shot at.

Terry_P

I like the speed strips, they carry flat and like moses you load two at a time.