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Old 12-17-2016, 07:14 AM   #1
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Ruger Coming Out with 2 New Revolvers

Just saw on RFN that Jeff Quinn has something on his Faceplant Page about Ruger offering a 3" GP100 in 44Spl and a Redhawk 8 round 357 mag. Heard the Redhawk can be had in a 2 3/4" version. When I get back home this spring the GP will be added to the stable as soon as I can find one. The Redhawk sounds interesting as well.
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Your subject had me going for a minute; NEW revolvers, WOW...

Then I see it's just variations on the old........still, nice additions to their line-up.

I'm waiting for Ruger to announce a break-top .22.
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The 44 Spl is 5 shot with adjustable sights. It shot to the top of the gotta have list.
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The Redhawk was once offered in a 357 with a six shot cylinder, but that heavy cylinder was actually too much of a good thing and lead to peening of the cylinder notches, from what some gunsmiths have told me. Going to an eight shot should cure that, nicely.

Love hearing that the GP will be offered in a 44 Special. Love that old cartridge and glad to see another gun chambered for it, specifically. The 44 Special has lived for too long in the shadow of the 44 mag. It deserves more guns of its own.
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The 44 Special has lived for too long in the shadow of the 44 mag. It deserves more guns of its own.
It's the largest caliber I can shoot in reasonable comfort. I think right now the only gun dedicated to it is the Charter Bulldog?
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Ruger has offered a number of distributor exclusives in 44 Special Blackhawks. Should still be some around.
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The 8 shot Redhawk is pulling me in as well. May have to get some trading material together this spring
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The .44 Special in that size sounds nice but I would prefer a longer barrel. This was my main complaint about the S&W 696, it was an L frame with adjustable sights but a 3" barrel. With a 4" to 6" barrel it would have been an excellent holster gun but the 3" seemed awkwardly short and cost too much velocity. 3" barrels work nicely on fixed sight concealment guns like the Mod 65 but the 696 never felt right. A 5" would probably look and feel great on an L frame S&W. For Ruger fans the GP 100 should too.
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Mac:

One of the members at RFN that works at Ruger wouldn't commit but strongly hinted other options for the GP will be available in the 44.
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Hope you're right, Terry. I'm with Mac. A 4" would have made more sense for the first 44 Special GP. It's definitely the more all around, do it all barrel length. Then add a 3" or a snubby. That's the usual scenario for a new revolver intro.

As for me, I stand by what I said about being glad to see another 44 Special chambered gun, but given that I shoot so much 45 auto and also 45 Colt in our Blackhawk, the 44 Special cartridge doesn't get me anything that I don't already have in terms of ballistics.

BC, 45 Colt cowboy loads in the Blackhawk are like shooting 38 Specials. Even milder than 44 Specials or 45 auto. Might want to give a 45 Colt Blackhawk a look. Of course, the beauty of the 45 Colt in the Blackhawk is that you can turn into a raging monster of a cartridge, too. Ruger, only, 45 Colt bear loads will give you a nasty lesson on recoil management. (Ask me how I know.) That 4 5/8" 45 Colt Convertible Blackhawk will see duty this spring when the bears are back out and hungry. Fun, fun, fun range gun, though, when shooting light 45 Colts and standard 45 auto.

FYI, folks. I traced off the 45 Colt/45 Auto Redhawk. Accuracy with the 45 auto did not impress and not worth messing with moon clips to shoot it. Now, accuracy of the 45 Auto in the Blackhawk Convertible, just the opposite. It's the equal of any of my 1911s and no messing with moon clips, either.

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I hope they do offer better options as it would make a fine gun. I will not be looking at one as I don't care for the GP100. I had one in .357 but it felt crude and wrong to my S&W spoiled hands so I traded it off.

NCG, I love the idea of a SA in .45 ACP. I had a Lipsey's convertable on order for most of a year and finally gave up. I really liked the smaller frame Ruger. I am kind of glad I missed it as I have had too much trouble with my 50th anniversary Blackhawk. Can't keep it running.

I may try to get a Uberti or Cimarron after hearing from TGR and others how good they are. I have no interest in shooting .45 Colt but convertibles seem to be the only way to get .45 ACP in single actions. In truth, probably likely to sell more of the guns I have than buy more. The future seems shorter and more limited these days.
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They are on the Ruger web site and sure look like gotta haves to me.
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Your subject had me going for a minute; NEW revolvers, WOW...

Then I see it's just variations on the old........still, nice additions to their line-up.

I'm waiting for Ruger to announce a break-top .22.
Break top 22 ?
Is that for real or just wishful hopes ?

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At this point it is wishful thinking. Haven't gotten around to getting the 44 Special yet as buying the place in FL and selling the RV have consumed my time. It will happen before the end of the summer.
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There is 2 problems with convertibles . Normally you must readjust sights when you change like from 45 Colt to 45 ACP . Another problem is the long free bore in 45 ACP cylinder in large frame revolvers . Being a hand loader and target shooter reducing the change in the 45 Colt is a much better way to go or have a gun made like this large frame below made for 45 ACP from S&W . Note the short cylinder and long barrel at forcing cone area . This is the correct way to do it .
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Well, guys, hate to say this, but I've sold/traded off all of our post year 2000 Ruger revolvers. Not a one, left. No more new production Ruger revolvers or semi-autos for me. Have tried twice, now, in the last six years to give new production Ruger revolvers a try, but hasn't worked out for me. Twice is enough. Not my style to go into a long rant, nor will I discourage others for going with new Ruger handguns, so I'll just say that, once again, the finishing work on my part to get these guns to shoot, as in properly functioning, right out of the box, plus accuracy and leading issues, lousy triggers, sights not properly regulated, sending guns back to Ruger due to parts breaking on brand new guns, single action revolvers mysteriously locking up while shooting and so on has cut way too deep into my precious shooting time. Not talking about a few Ruugers, here, but the majority of Rugers I've bought in the last six years have needed some kind of work and that's a lot of guns, by the way, not a small sample. Two dozen guns plus is more than just a matter of bad luck. That legendary Ruger toughness doesn't amount to a hill of beans if they don't operate and shoot in the first place.

Okay, I'm done. Sorry for being such a downer. I do have and will keep my older Rugers, though, and will continue to add some when I can. Have much more faith in them.

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Gee, when I first saw this today, I thought it was a NEW thread with two MORE new Rugers........then I saw it was the old GP and Redhawk.........maybe one day they'll announce that break top I wish they'd make........

I've had my share of Ruger troubles since I resumed shooting in 2008, with a bad Single-Six and three bad LCRs. But I've had a good Mark III, 10/22, two Bearcats and two SP101s. That's still 40% needing work. In years past I've had 6 others that were all fine, and as I remember the fit and finish was some better than it is these days.

I doubt I'll buy any more guns, but you never know, do you?
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Well, guys, hate to say this, but I've sold/traded off all of our post year 2000 Ruger revolvers. Not a one, left. No more new production Ruger revolvers or semi-autos for me.
What was wrong with the Single Seven? You loved that gun, at one time anyway. I only own 3 newer Rugers, but I've been 100% happy with all 3. (GP100 .357, Single Six convertible, and 22/45 MkIII)
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I no longer buy any Ruger ...... I go to LGS and look at them and find too many thing wrong with them without firing a shot in them . .
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Shaky, the rear sight on the Seven was maxed out all the way to the right to get it to shoot to POA at 25 yards. Made it tough to shoot at 50 and 100 yards, the way I wanted to do. Should not have to use Kentucky windage on an adjustable sight gun. Of course, most shooters, these days, don't use handguns much past 10 yards, so those folks wouldn't know the difference. Like I said, just a bad choice for my shooting.

The Flat Top 357, also an adjustable sight gun, required me to file down the front sight, considerably, to get it to shoot to POA at 25 yards because I ran out of elevation adjustment on the rear sight. Nothing left. My fixed sight Birdshead 45 ACP shot more than 8" high at 16 yards with standard 230 grain loads. No fix on that one. How about a 44 mag Birdshead with such a rough and poorly finished recoil shield that cartridges were actually snagging on it as the cylinder rotated, causing the gun not to cycle? How about a Super Blackhawk with such a poorly fitted loading gate that it was doing the same thing? Oh sure, I did some file work and solved the problems, but why should I have to that? And these are the minor issues compared to the breakages on others that meant a trip back to Ruger. Don't even get me started about mushy Ruger single action triggers.

On the other hand, we did find a new in the box Single Six in 32 H&R, made in 1991 and it shoots, perfectly, so I'm still very much in the 32 game. By coincidence, we also have our SP101, original 6 shot 22 LR, also new in the box, bought from a collector and also made in 1991. It's smooth as butter and trigger in both SA and DA equals a fine Smith. Also perfect is our Bisley Single Six, made in 1988, and so it goes. I'm not quitting Rugers, just the new stuff.

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