Gunner Forum  

Ruger sr22 fails video ...unhappy owner

This is a discussion on Ruger sr22 fails video ...unhappy owner within the Gun Talk forums, part of the Gunner Forum category; bad gun or bad ammo? 5min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkmWTMsJbQ exellent review of new sr22. several explanations about fails. good follow-up video. 33min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWNRG7xBPPk From another forum: I ...


Go Back   Gunner Forum > Gunner Forum > Gun Talk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-14-2013, 12:12 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: Texas
Posts: 481
Ruger sr22 fails video ...unhappy owner

bad gun or bad ammo? 5min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkmWTMsJbQ

exellent review of new sr22. several explanations about fails. good follow-up video. 33min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWNRG7xBPPk

From another forum: I had the exact same issues with the slide wear and FTF on the 2nd round in my magzine. I finally realized that it was due to the fact that the spring which holds down the slide stop has gone missing, thus the slide stop was catching the slide thus causes the FTF. Not only it causes the slide to be held back but also worn out the slide.
My SR22 is now back at Ruger for repair and I will find out what they will do to fix these issues.
Mike Potts is offline  
Register

Welcome to Gunner Forum - a friendly gun forum for gun owners.

We welcome everyone and the community is free to join so register today and become part of the Gunner Forum family!

Old 02-14-2013, 04:35 PM   #2
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: East Coast
Posts: 56
I think Ruger dropped the ball on the SR22. There are lots of reports of problems. I have a friend with one that had feeding issues after 1000 rounds or so. It went back to Ruger, came back worked a while, and now jams as much as it feeds.
RugerFan is offline  
Old 02-14-2013, 05:07 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
303Lithgow's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: Washington State
Posts: 11,658
Mine shoots fine. I seldom have problems with any of my firearms yet I can hand it to someone else and they have nothing but problems. I think 99% of firearm problems are with the shooter and not the firearm.
303Lithgow is offline  
Old 02-14-2013, 05:39 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
tx gun runner's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
From: Ft Hood , Tx area
Posts: 9,219
I shot over 70,000 rds in this gun without 1 failure or jams and the hammer spring broke into 3 pieces and didn't know it till I took it home any cleaned after a match ..

tx gun runner is online now  
Old 02-14-2013, 06:04 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: Texas
Posts: 481
Yes RugerFan, I've seen lots of vids with the FTF problem. I thought the finding about the holdown spring sounded viable, but I haven't seen it in any breakdown videos. Do you know what their talking about?

Yours is a fine weapon Mr. gunrunner. I've been reading-up on it and everyone says it is a great competition gun. I like the style of the grip, Have not seen another like it on the web yet.

303, if the magazine is loaded and instaled properly, just what could somrone do to make it FTF?
Mike Potts is offline  
Old 02-14-2013, 06:43 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
303Lithgow's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: Washington State
Posts: 11,658
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Potts View Post
Yes RugerFan, I've seen lots of vids with the FTF problem. I thought the finding about the holdown spring sounded viable, but I haven't seen it in any breakdown videos. Do you know what their talking about?

Yours is a fine weapon Mr. gunrunner. I've been reading-up on it and everyone says it is a great competition gun. I like the style of the grip, Have not seen another like it on the web yet.

303, if the magazine is loaded and instaled properly, just what could somrone do to make it FTF?
Bad Karma. Limp wristing usually causes a semi not to cycle fully. This is fairly common on 22's.
303Lithgow is offline  
Old 02-14-2013, 07:55 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: Texas
Posts: 481
See Im learning all the time.
Mike Potts is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 07:52 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Beerman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: West Ga.
Posts: 1,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by 303Lithgow View Post
Bad Karma. Limp wristing usually causes a semi not to cycle fully. This is fairly common on 22's.


Exactly..
Beerman is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 10:55 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
north country gal's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2013
From: northern wisconsin
Posts: 2,785
Quote:
Originally Posted by 303Lithgow View Post
Bad Karma. Limp wristing usually causes a semi not to cycle fully. This is fairly common on 22's.
I agree. Common on just about any semi-auto in the hands of a beginner.
north country gal is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 11:06 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Beerman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: West Ga.
Posts: 1,112
True. I took a buddy of mine and his 13 year old to the range for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it is very evident that its common. She had two or three FTE out of my G17 and I have never had any. She had a great time and we are going back this weekend..
Beerman is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Machinist's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
From: McKinney, TX
Posts: 8,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by north country gal View Post
I agree. Common on just about any semi-auto in the hands of a beginner.
I think it is especially true on guns with polymer frames, just not enough inertial mass without a firm grip.
Machinist is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: Texas
Posts: 481
Certainly sounds right about the wrist, but the man in the second video seemed to have a tight grip. Why so many complaints about the SR22?

I know I didn't like to hear it had an aluminum slide. Aluminum bends really easy. Does the slide actually provide the push to eject the shell and load the next round, or is it the force of the powder blast(help with termanology) and the slide just rides along?
Mike Potts is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 01:22 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Machinist's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
From: McKinney, TX
Posts: 8,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Potts View Post
Certainly sounds right about the wrist, but the man in the second video seemed to have a tight grip. Why so many complaints about the SR22?

I know I didn't like to hear it had an aluminum slide. Aluminum bends really easy. Does the slide actually provide the push to eject the shell and load the next round, or is it the force of the powder blast(help with termanology) and the slide just rides along?
The pressure has to drop before the case starts out more than a few thousandths or the case will bulge or burst. All the energy to extract and eject the shell, and the energy to be stored in the recoil spring to strip and chamber the next round is stored in the slide in the initial pressure impulse. Aluminum is used because the slide can not weigh too much or there will be too much inertia for it to cycle fully. Steel slides on .22s are usually short or very compact and they tend to be picky with ammo power. The lighter aluminum slide can use a stronger spring to store more energy for the second part of the action cycle.
Machinist is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 01:25 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Machinist's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
From: McKinney, TX
Posts: 8,148
You can have bad examples of good designs. The Ruger Standard auto had a fabulous reputation but mine was a jam-o-matic and completely turned me off of them forever. I gave mine away and would not have one for free, though I know many people love them and I have even recommended them.
Machinist is offline  
Old 02-18-2013, 04:47 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
303Lithgow's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
From: Washington State
Posts: 11,658
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
You can have bad examples of good designs. The Ruger Standard auto had a fabulous reputation but mine was a jam-o-matic and completely turned me off of them forever. I gave mine away and would not have one for free, though I know many people love them and I have even recommended them.
And I was going to give you a free one when I came down in April.
303Lithgow is offline  
Old 01-11-2014, 06:46 AM   #16
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
From: Texas
Posts: 1
Thumbs up Second Round Fails To Load - Workaround

Being the lazy guy that I am, I wanted to find a workaround for the SR22 pistol not loading that 2nd round into the chamber upon firing the first round. Here's what works:

1. Load 9 rounds of whatever ammo it is that you'd like to use (and is in use when the FTL occurs).

2. For the 10th and final round (which will be the first one shot), use CCI Mini-Mag copper plated, standard, HV, or better. The ammo IS slightly different among brands and types. The second and subsequent rounds will load successfully.

This doesn't fix the gun or the ammo, but it works just fine. Don't forget that you are shooting a handgun with ammo designed for use in rifles. I carry a handful of CCI in my pocket, and grab one when loading that last round. Not a big deal. And using only one round of the slightly more expensive CCI per magazine is a nice money saver!

And it saves me the aggravation of packaging-up my gun and sending it off to Ruger - and waiting for it to be returned. With the knowledge that it still may not function when it is returned to me.

Last edited by The Polish Rifle; 01-11-2014 at 06:48 AM. Reason: Added more info!
The Polish Rifle is offline  
Old 01-11-2014, 08:06 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
tx gun runner's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
From: Ft Hood , Tx area
Posts: 9,219
This is my bug or backup gun for over 30 yrs . I got 8 or 10 [ don't remember ] of the Iver Johnson TP22 in the 70's and sold all but this one to my friends and NOT one of them ever had any problems , no matter which ammo they put in them . There is no good reason for a 22 bottom feeder to screw up except POOR design . There is a ton of the SR22 being ship back to Ruger . I know Ruger knows how to build a gun right , I don't want a cheap junk gun . There short cuts has lost me as a buyer anymore .

tx gun runner is online now  
Old 01-11-2014, 09:08 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
north country gal's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2013
From: northern wisconsin
Posts: 2,785
Hey, TX, speaking of High Standards, drooled all over a mid 50s vintage Field King with adjustable sights and walnut grips, complete with extra barrel and box, yesterday, while buying my Colt.

As to the issues with small, lightweight autoloaders, yes, I agree that operator error or more correctly, lack of knowledge on how to grip and shoot these little guns is a factor. Have helped a couple of newbies eliminate some FTE/FTF issues on small guns, one being an SR22, by using a more aggressive stance and hold. Shooting autos is not the same as shooting revolvers and oh so very different than shooting my Contenders and Encore pistols. If I tried to use the same hold with one of my big boomer Encores as I do on my 1911s, I would end up ripping my shoulder off and permanently damaging my wrist. Each type of hand gun is different in technique required and even then, some individual guns within a category need a little tuning as to hold and technique. It's one of the many things that makes shooting hand guns so interesting to me.

That said, there have been legit gun issues with the SR22 not related to the operator. The Ruger forums are filled with such posts.

Last edited by north country gal; 01-11-2014 at 09:12 AM.
north country gal is offline  
Old 01-11-2014, 09:54 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
Machinist's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
From: McKinney, TX
Posts: 8,148
I traded for a new Walther P22 shortly before I saw the Ruger SR22 and wondered if I would have been better off with the Ruger when I read that some P22s seemed to be picky about ammo. Mine has been 100% reliable so far and after reading this I feel even better about the Walther. It is the only .22 autoloader I have had that has been this reliable, though I have only put a few hundred rounds through it. I also got a Walther PK380 and though I had some misgivings it has also been 100% reliable from the first round and the trigger has settled in and smoothed up nicely with some use. These are inexpensive guns and really make the failures of the Rugers irritating.
Machinist is offline  
Reply

  Gunner Forum > Gunner Forum > Gun Talk

Tags
sr22


Search tags for this page
ruger fixed ftf problem on my sr22
,
ruger sr22 forum
,
ruger sr22 jamming
,
ruger sr22 pistol problems
,

ruger sr22 problems

,
ruger sr22 recoil spring
,
ruger sr22 reviews
,
ruger sr22 slide stop spring
,
ruger sr22 videos
,
sr 22 feeding problems
,
sr22 slide release
,
sr22 videos

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Gunner Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ruger SR22 Rifle Beerman Semi Auto Rifles 11 07-16-2013 02:27 PM
New Ruger SR22 Terry_P Semi Auto Pistols 1 01-07-2012 09:08 PM
Remington Model 11 Owner looking for a stock??? sheepdog Shotguns 5 09-03-2010 10:29 AM


Top Gun Sites Top Sites List

Powered by vBulletin 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright © 2008-2012 Gunner Forum. All rights reserved.