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Old 12-30-2016, 11:00 AM   #1
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NEW Colt Cobra .38+P

Says "steel frame", looks like stainless. The original Cobra was alloy (?). Fiber optic front. I don't see it on Colt's website. Price?

About all I see on Google:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...a-38-revolver/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...-cobra.815460/

Maybe revolvers are making a comeback, and a Python is next?


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Old 12-30-2016, 11:56 AM   #2
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Have to say, that is good news. Can't wait to see one.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:18 PM   #3
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Skimming the two forums I linked, there are a couple of claims that MSRP will be $699. Release date is supposedly January first. I guess we'll see. The Kimber K6s was released June 1, but I didn't see one until November.

Always good to see a new wheelgun....
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Speaking of compact revolvers, I'm still kicking around that Kimber. Wasn't that crazy about the looks, but the gun makes sense. What's not to like about a 6 shot 357, 23 ounce gun with great sights and trigger and no exposed hammer? From what I can see, no lock, either. Always a little nervous about trying a company's first effort, but ...

It's all Ridgerunner's fault, by the way. He does have a point, though, about a gun that can be fired without any issues with the action snagging on clothing or whatever. I can see having a gun that I could fire from inside my purse, if need be. Love my Sig P238, but that's not doable with that gun.

And now this Colt.
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The Kimber I fondled was certainly nice, with excellent fit and finish (and no lock). Every moving part was smooth as silk. But the $ 799 tag, MSRP $ 899, is a big premium for "nice". My LCR does the same job with less weight for a lot less $. It's just ugly doing it........So, the Kimbers are selling.

The Colt price is in line with a snub Ruger SP, and I expect fit and finish to average somewhat better than an SP. They can't be like a classic old Colt and still compete. The new Cobra does still have six rounds, and an exposed hammer for snagging clothes.

The pressure is on Colt to really do this right, and hopefully they will.
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Life has so many wonderful choices. I'm glad to help mix it up. I got my 442 and I will post on another thread.
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Sitting here reflecting on what guns in the safe are collecting too much dust. Looks like I'll be a buyer this year. I'm thinking GP-100 in 44 Spl. That Kimber is sweet looking as well but how many 357's do I need, really.
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. That Kimber is sweet looking as well but how many 357's do I need, really.
As always, just one more.
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As always, just one more.
I'm already shopping for one. You cannot make a mistake choosing a 357. No such thing as too many. Problem is, I also love the idea of a double action 44 Special, too. So many guns, so little money.
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I was late coming to the .357 Magnum. I loved big bores and the common 158 grain loads did not seem to make much sense in barrels shorter than 6" but as I worked with and looked at the 125 grain loads they really made the shorter barreled guns into very effective handguns and worked in smaller frames than the big bores. Now I am well sold and have many of them. If I could have only one gun it would be my 4" Mod 19 revolver. It can do it all for me at least competently, and many things superbly. Would like to have a good 6" revolver but can't justify it at all.
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It is now on Colt's website. Confirms $ 699 MSRP.

Online catalog page:

http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Revolvers/Cobra


Spec sheet, shows that a tritium front sight will be announced:

http://www.colt.com/Portals/0/Specs/...OBRA-SM2FO.pdf
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Have to say, I like what I see in the specs. That seems like an awfully low MSRP for a Colt, though. Almost makes me nervous. Not a criticism, but that's even lower than the over the counter price for most Colt bottom feeders.

And, YES, my last range trip in cold weather with my cold hands has me thinking real hard about going back to a DA revolver for all my self-defense work. Thanks to my cold fingers and hands, had some shots go off with the semi-autos before I was quite ready. Oh, sure, I had the guns pointed in a safe direction, at the target - I never touch the trigger, otherwise - but that lack of trigger control really spooked me. Not a good thing, at all, if I had to point a gun at someone. A DA pull on a revolver or maybe a long striker fired pull on a bottom feeder might not be a bad thing for a self-defense gun.

Geesshh. Just when I had settled in on compact autos with excellent triggers for carry guns, I run into this. Anyone else feel this way?

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Have to say, I like what I see in the specs. That seems like an awfully low MSRP for a Colt, though. Almost makes me nervous. Not a criticism, but that's even lower than the over the counter price for most Colt bottom feeders.
I suspect they reasoned that the price could be a little more than Ruger or S&W, but less than Kimber, to succeed. This may be sort of an "introductory offer" that won't last once they start to sell. Get 'em on the shelf, and in the gun rag reviews, the price may creep up.

Couple of reviews and YouTubes already:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...e-action-colt/

http://rangehot.com/new-colt-cobra-38-special-revolver/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCbypvC-vyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZeTJqpgDg

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. A DA pull on a revolver or maybe a long striker fired pull on a bottom feeder might not be a bad thing for a self-defense gun.

Geesshh. Just when I had settled in on compact autos with excellent triggers for carry guns, I run into this. Anyone else feel this way?
I think there is a lot of wisdom in this. It is part of why I moved away from SA autos, though I still like SA/DA triggers. The DA pull on a good revolver just has several good aspects, safety, and good tracking on moving targets or when moving the sights onto target. A K frame with a good action is just about the best I can think of for self defense.

I wonder if the low price is a reflection of new manufacturing methods. Colt had already moved into sintered parts in their DA revolvers. The new CNC machine tools can almost eliminate hand fitting in guns designed to use the accuracy of the machines. This is why so many revolvers can be made with 8 and 10 chambers. It is the greater precision of new machines and tooling. There is a cost in this as can be seen in the less robust nature of new S&W revolvers but it does save money. It will be interesting to see the internal design.
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I'm curious, too, about the construction. To be honest, though, I think the old argument of Smith versus Ruger, or new Smith versus old Smith, as to which is tougher is mostly just something to discuss on forum boards, since so very few shooters, these days, put enough rounds though any gun to wear them out.

Speaking of construction, I find it ironic that the Kimber revolver has no MIM parts from what I can see, so far. Kimber, after all, was one of the first gun makers to go with MIM in a big way and they took a lot of bashing because of it. Now just about everyone uses MIM parts in their revolvers and some of these same bashers now think it's an improvement.

Speaking of CNC, given that I am one who buys and sells a lot, I have noticed more consistent accuracy in the new Smiths than the old Smiths. Smith purists don't like to hear that, but the most accurate Smiths I've had have been mostly the new CNC models.

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The new Smiths are very accurately machined and require little fitting so I am not surprised they would be accurate. My problem is with durability of what seem to be cast parts. I have had several failures on new Smiths, two on my Mod 60 .357 with 5" barrel. I really liked the idea and form of this gun but first a piece broke offf the hammer, tying up the action until I took it apart, removed the broken piece, and smoothed the break. Then more recently the hand has come loose, the pin sliding out of the hammer assembly and tying up the action. It sits in a drawer, useless. Even if I sent it back and got it fixed, how could I ever trust it? I am just not happy with the new parts. I know they are cheaper but they are just not as durable or repairable as the older forged parts. I am afraid to buy a new Smith & Wesson revolver.

In looking at the videos and the Colt page I think the New Colt will be the same story so I have no interest, especially as they seem to retain the single lockup point that was a weak point of earlier Colt DA revolvers. Guess it is lucky I will likely not live to need new revolvers.
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Yeah, not the first time I've heard of cast parts failure on guns, these days. For a time, Ruger was having fits with their cast front sight on the SR1911 breaking and falling off.

Oh, I do understand about the trust thing, too, once you've been burned by a gun. I've sworn off Rugers a time or two, only to come back for another look, but I'm much more cautious these days.
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Colt Cobra

The old Colt Cobras do have an alloy frame. I have one. Nice for concealed carry.
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If one of my Glocks ever breaks I can go to Revell or Testor for glue and parts to repair them . . Here is a replacement revolver for you guys and gals


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i am quite content with my magnum Ruger LCR to the point that Smith J frames are off the table. I still have a 3" LCR on my radar and would have one by now if they had a magnum version.

my last Smith 642 had terrible poa/poi and the model 640 apparently had a firing pin that was a tad short resulting in some light strikes. i had read about a few other folks having similiar problems.

So far, for a six shot, the new kid on the block......this Kimber.....has really caught my attention. I would rather see it in a 3" myself. Actually i would like to fondle one but no one in my area stocks one.

i did have a semi-respectable kitchen table gunsmith offer to pare back the barrel on a model 64 to 3i inches and install a dove tail front sight. That would be the poor boy cheap route.
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