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This is a discussion on Ruger barrel tilt and QC within the Gun Talk forums, part of the Gunner Forum category; Was at Sportsman's Warehouse this morning. They had two GP100s, standard four inch stainless and a Match Champion. Two .357 SP101s, 2.25 and 3 inch. ...


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Old 04-14-2017, 08:48 AM   #1
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Ruger barrel tilt and QC

Was at Sportsman's Warehouse this morning. They had two GP100s, standard four inch stainless and a Match Champion. Two .357 SP101s, 2.25 and 3 inch. In curiosity, I ended up looking at all four.

Both GP100s had underclocked barrels, leaving the front sight leaning about 5-6 degrees. The three inch SP was overclocked about three degrees, and the short one was under about 3 degrees.

Fit and finish was average, minor marks and light scratches. It's a shame so many end up with bad barrel position. Suely there is some sort of jig that would make it easy to determine, since my eyes alone do it pretty quickly.

Made me feel good that my new SP is only under about one degree; better than any I've seen, with slightly better fit and finish elsewhere, too. My .22 SP barrel is dead-on, with very good fit and finish.

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I have never been in a Sportsmans Warehouse, but have them locally & have been tempted.

Your findings are not getting my urgency up.
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Have sold off all but five of our post-2000 production Ruger revolvers (the only five that have not given me ANY issues) and, from now on, only plan to buy Rugers revolvers made prior to the year 2000. That's the year Bill Ruger retired. Might just be a coincidence or bad luck on my part, but it seems that the company changed after he left. The older Bill Ruger era Ruger revolvers in our collection are the better guns and I can see it. None of them have needed tinkering, modding or finish work to get them to shoot, even the ones that were essentially new in the box when I bought them. Different story on the new stuff. The last six I've bought have had issues ranging from serious, as in malfunctions, to merely annoying. Got to the point on the new stuff where I was actually expecting to have issues or a call to Ruger, right out of the box. No thanks. I've had it. My shooting time is too precious to be spent trying to fix guns that never should have left the factory or left the factory only partially finished.

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Have sold off all but five of our post-2000 production Ruger revolvers (the only five that have not given me ANY issues) and, from now on, only plan to buy Rugers revolvers made prior to the year 2000. That's the year Bill Ruger retired. Might just be a coincidence or bad luck on my part, but it seems that the company changed after he left. The older Bill Ruger era Ruger revolvers in our collection are the better guns and I can see it. None of them have needed tinkering, modding or finish work to get them to shoot, even the ones that were essentially new in the box when I bought them. Different story on the new stuff. The last six I've bought have had issues ranging from serious, as in malfunctions, to merely annoying. Got to the point on the new stuff where I was actually expecting to have issues or a call to Ruger, right out of the box. No thanks. I've had it. My shooting time is too precious to be spent trying to fix guns that never should have left the factory or left the factory only partially finished.
You have had good luck with your SS flattop convertible, haven't you?

I feel its impossible for any mfg. to go from 700,000 units to over 3 million units & not have some guilty issues.

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Yes, both the 357/9mm Flat top and the standard Blackhawk 45 Colt/45 auto have been flawless. Those two are never sell guns.
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I have never been in a Sportsmans Warehouse, but have them locally & have been tempted.

Your findings are not getting my urgency up.
They have no control on the quality of the guns they receive. I see flaws in Rugers everywhere, as NCG related.

In my area at least, Sportsman's is much better than Gander or Dick's here. They have a better selection in everything gun related, and a good stock of handguns and rifles. Better prices too. My only pick with them these days is their getting lots of Remington .22, and no Federal or CCI. I have an obscene amount of both, but would still like to see it on the shelves. They have a good stock of Federal centerfire, at least.
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My granddaughter practices soccer right by one, so I will pay them a visit.
I just get such great deals with the 20% off Cabelas gift cards. Those coupled with sales & my Veteran discount makes them hard to beat.
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Yes, both the 357/9mm Flat top and the standard Blackhawk 45 Colt/45 auto have been flawless. Those two are never sell guns.
NCG, I know the story on the 357/9mm, but is your .45 convertible a newer model?
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My granddaughter practices soccer right by one, so I will pay them a visit.
I just get such great deals with the 20% off Cabelas gift cards. Those coupled with sales & my Veteran discount makes them hard to beat.
I've only been in one Cabela's, and liked it. As I remember, overall they were better than Sportsman's, but Sportsman's may have some things Cabela's doesn't. They're worth a look. Biggest difference, Sportsman's has only new guns.

I've only been in one Bass Pro, and wasn't impressed. Both stores were in Tennessee near Dollywood. Bud's had just opened there, and it was disappointing, too. Maybe they just weren't up to speed yet, though.
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NCG, I know the story on the 357/9mm, but is your .45 convertible a newer model?
Yes, it's a couple years, old, but it's a full size Blackhawk, not a convertible. What I like about this 45 Convertible is that, unlike the companion 9mm cylinder on the357, the companion 45 auto cylinder the 45 Colt is super accurate, on a par with any 1911. Also, being a full size 45 Colt Blackhawk, it will take "Ruger only" 45 Colt loads that take you beyond the 44 mag, but that are vicious to shoot. Just nice to have that power option, though.

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Very nice NCG! Thanks
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