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Old 05-13-2017, 11:46 AM   #1
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Big Ol S&W 27-2 Coming My Way

No pics yet, since as usual I've been delayed by the DOJ. I've been eyeing a Smith & Wesson Mdl 27-2 at my range for almost a year. 6" factory nickel .357 mag in the big N-frame, same size as the Dirty Harry 44 mag. They initially put it out at $1149, and marked it down to $995 pretty quickly. It's sat at that price and this week they marked it down to $795 and I bought it. It might be a $995 gun except for the fact that there's no box and the only grips are rubber Pachmayrs. Very nice condition though, 95%+. The single action trigger is freakishly light, must be not much over 1 lb. It won't push off, though. It's got the target hammer and trigger, and the action is pretty tight. I think $795 is a fair price. It's a shame I can't put the wood grips from my 629 on the 27, but the 629 actually has a round butt.
If this keeps up I might have to get a JOB. Spent $1500 yesterday. $400 for a trailer hitch on the new RAV4, and $1100 for a new garage door and opener, with the goal of starting to actually park in the garage.
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Old 05-13-2017, 03:53 PM   #2
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At the rate you are going, ya better leave room for a gun safe.
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Old 05-13-2017, 04:40 PM   #3
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Shaky, those big N frame 357s are real tanks. Almost impossible to wear one out. We have the plain jane version in the 28-2. It's hubby's favorite gun, next to his Smith 617. I swear, he'd be happy if those two were the only ones he owned.

There are issues with nickel finish guns as far as proper cleaning and maintenance, but I'm sure you've already done your homework on them. One lesser known issue that I've encountered with a nickel 686, though, is that the plating does not dissipate heat, quickly. Acts as a heat trap. If you plan to use the gun for long extended range sessions, you'll need to give some time to let the gun cool down, as needed. My 686 would do a POI shift when it got too hot.

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There are issues with nickel finish guns as far as proper cleaning and maintenance, but I'm sure you've already done your homework on them.
In looking at the S&W forum, I see some that say don't clean nickel with Hoppe's #9, and many others that say it's a non-issue with Smiths, because the Hoppe's attacks the copper base on nickel finishes and not the nickel itself. They say Smith doesn't use copper. Also some say don't use Flitz, etc, and others say use Flitz but go easy. I'll probably try to avoid abrasives and see how grungy it gets. No one ever accused me of over-cleaning. As far as heat, I don't shoot that fast or that much. Typically I don't shoot more than a box of ammo with a centerfire gun before going on to the next one.
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I think going conservative is the best approach, too. As far as the heat thing, figured it wouldn't be a hard use range gun for you, anyway. Should be a great gun for you. They really DON'T make them like that, anymore. Good price, too. Vintage Smiths are not getting any cheaper.

Now you'll need to find a vintage 17-2 or 17-3 to add to the collection for the sake of shooting cheaper 22 LR.
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I never buy nickle plated guns because the plating can lift . I only buy stainless if I want a shiny gun . Stainless is a metal alloy with nickle in the alloy . Stainless can corrosion and lead will sticks to stainless bore faster then chrome-moly barrel . This is the short version that is why the lead bullet rifle shooter use chrome-moly barrels and not stainless .
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Back from the range with no gleaming new gun. Still delayed by the DOJ. They changed the Minnesota law so you don't have to go through the NICS check if you have a carry permit, but it only applies to permits that expire after Aug 1st of 2019. Mine expires in Feb of 2019. So after I get it renewed, no more NICS checks.

http://www.startribune.com/atf-minne...uns/420780223/

So, I had to pacify myself shooting 50 rd of 45 ACP and 110 rd of 22.
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I finally got the 27-2 and plan to shoot it tomorrow. I think it's pretty nice. Note that it's a "transitional" gun that has a recessed cylinder, but doesn't have a pinned barrel. The action is nice and tight. The cylinder gap is on the high end at .007, but there's virtually no endshake. I foolishly didn't take the grips off to check the finish underneath before I bought it, but it looks great under there.


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That's a beauty, for sure. Can't wait to hear how it shoots for you.
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I suppose I've committed "Model 27 heresy" by not showing the fancy factory checkered topstrap.

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The Mod 27 was the showcase revolver and those from that time were beautiful. I had a Mod 27-2 with 8 3/8" barrel and it had the quality feel of a Python. I love the one you got. I prefer NP and it has the target front sight. That is a treasure. I hope it brings a lot of smiles to your face.
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I think that sweetie deserves some original wood S&W target style grips, too. 357 recoil won't be a problem on that big N frame, so those rubber jobs have to go.

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I think that sweetie deserves some original wood S&W target style grips, too. 357 recoil won't be a problem on that big N frame, so those rubber jobs have to go.
Truth and wisdom, as usual.
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I think that sweetie deserves some original wood S&W target style grips, too. 357 recoil won't be a problem on that big N frame, so those rubber jobs have to go.
I'm considering these $35.99 made in Thailand grips that look pretty close to the real thing. Some on the S&W board have good things to say about this vendor.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/s-w-grip-Smi...3D182558508152

I'm back from the range, and yes, the recoil is pretty mild with .357's. Herter's .357 is no slouch with 158 gr at 1263 fps, and they almost feel like a 38 spl. Speaking of which, I bought a bunch of .357 and .38 on Cabela's Memorial day sale. With the sale prices minus the $20 off $150 codes I had, minus the discount I effectively got by using gift cards bought at 80 cents on the dollar, .357 was $12.52 a box and 38 spl was $9.91, with free ship to store. Full range report to follow.
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I don't have experience with Jaruwan but several on Ruger Forum.Net have and speak highly of him.They should dress up that Smith nicely.
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I shot 36 rd of 38 spl and 50 rd of .357. The first 20 shots were double action with .38's, doing the challenge from the S&W board. 4 shots at 3 yd, 6 at 5 yd, 6 at 7 yd, and 4 at 10 yd. The goal is to put all 20 in the 2 x 3" without touching any of the lines. I barely touched the line at the top with the 2nd 10 yd shot, then I lost focus and totally threw the last 2.



All the rest were slow single action. I seemed to be getting 4 or 5 good shots out of every 6 today, like in this one, where the first 4 tore out the X, and the 5th was a little low and the 6th lower still. That was about a 1 3/16" group at 10 yd, not quite as tight as I shot with the 629 on the first day. I don't think the fliers were any fault of the gun.



At the end I had only 2 rounds left, so I tried at 15 yd and put both in the same hole right on the X. I could show it, but I haven't gotten to the place where I show off 2 shot "groups." But I did end on a high note.

The double action trigger is okay, probably not as good as my model 19 or my GP100. The single action trigger is GREAT, very light and super crisp. I like the sight picture with the patridge front sight. The "heating up" factor didn't seem to be any issue, but I was shooting very slowly. Even the 20 DA shots were one at a time, lowering the gun after each. About 45 minutes for 86 shots. Even so, my arm was getting tired by the end of my .357 ammo. I cut my .22 shooting short, only 70 rd vs the 100 to 130 I usually shoot.
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Thanks for the report and, as always, great shooting. As for the tired arm, well, no one ever accused a 27 of being a carry gun.
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