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Old 05-18-2017, 10:15 AM   #1
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Bearcat scarcity

I was looking at the serial number histories on Ruger's site. Old Model Bearcat production was about ten thousand most years. In their last two years of production Ruger made twenty-one thousand (1973) and sixteen thousand (1974).

With the New Bearcats, most years have been two to four thousand (the first year, 1993, Ruger made only 504). The highest year so far is 7148 in 2004 (the first year, 1993, Ruger made only 504). Mine are from 2012, and Ruger made 4477 that year. They've made about 75,000 New Bearcats so far since 1993.

As a comparison, the SP101s seem to average about twenty thousand a year pretty steady since introduced in 1989. Totals up to about 600,000 so far. That's a lot of SPs!

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Compare that to semi-autos.
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They are making about 30,000 (centerfire) SP's, 40,000 GP's and 100,000 LCR's (centerfire) each year. Suspect the trend in revolvers is double action for self defense. I didn't look at any others. I'm guessing they can push just so many out of the Newport Facility and they are prioritizing based on demand.
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Compare that to semi-autos.
Plastic is so easy to turn out in quantity, with near zero finishing. I'd guess production cost of a frame is about the same as a piece of Tupperware.......The Mark IV likely makes the least profit of their pistols. I think it's the only all-metal pistol they make now?

I could imagine the Mark pistols and 10/22 production run well into the millions, I haven't looked.

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They are making about.....100,000 LCR's (centerfire) each year. Suspect the trend in revolvers is double action for self defense......
I hope after my three LCR mis-adventures that QC is now better on them. If not, they'll get 50k of the 100k back........Even so, my feeling on them is that Ruger overdid their quest for small and light. Some parts are just too fragile for the abuse they get.
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I've been doing that "hope QC is better with Ruger" thing, now, for the last six years. Hasn't happened. The customer is Ruger's QC. Just send it out the door to keep the numbers up. When a customer complains, have customer service fix it. When a customer doesn't complain, even if they should, the company saved a buck. All too typical modern business model. I'm done with new Rugers. I'll stick with the old stuff. Don't have time to do their job for them.

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I've been doing that "hope QC is better with Ruger" thing, now, for the last six years. Hasn't happened........ I'm done with Ruger.
You've had several posts about giving up on Ruger. I agree, they aren't what they used to be, but most other gun makers aren't, either. I've read lots of online posts about S&W and others letting unbelieveably lousy QC out the door. With often far worse customer service than Ruger in correcting the problems?

In the last eight years, I've sent four Rugers back out of ten. That's pretty bad. I looked at a lot of .22 SP101s before I found a really nice one. Yet in what I have now, made 2009-17, the only QC slip I have is that the "billboard" on one of my Bearcats isn't centered with the ejector housing. The rest are as good as ones I had thirty-odd years ago.

I've handled and shot other brands over the years, and still only own Rugers. The only kick I have with them is true of all makers. Too much plastic and other cost cuts to save or make a buck. Guns I'd never buy. Your quote, the "modern business model". Eventually, the older designs will be gone, and none of the new ones will deserve my money.

You may someday see a very nice Ruger that was built post Bill Ruger. If you look at it.
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There are now very few gun manufacturers that I would trust to by a new gun, sight, unseen. There are a few, but those tend to be either higher end small shop/custom brands or, hate to say it, foreign made brands such as CZ and Miroku (regardless of label). For me, Ruger, S&W, Colt, Savage, Remington and so on are not on the list. Those only after inspection. All for buying American when I can, but the old line US gun brands just ain't what they used to be. This send them out the door, quick, with minimal inspection and use customer service to filter out the bad ones is getting on my nerves. Just been my experience. Yours may vary.

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