The 41 Mag - Page 2

tx gun runner · 08-26-2010, 11:01 PM

The 38-40 is the 41 spec of the old guns . They screwup when they called it a 38-40 it is really a 40-40 . In a modern gun it can be loaded to almost 41 mag spec or if you load it with Black Powder makes it is super accurate round .

Snuffy · 08-26-2010, 11:54 PM

Then how come the brass in the 38 40 is different from the 44-40?

tx gun runner · 08-27-2010, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Snuffy

Then how come the brass in the 38 40 is different from the 44-40?

The 38-40 [40-40] takes a .400 bullet and the 44-40 take .424 to .429 bullet . You can use the brass from one to make the other one ..

Snuffy · 09-05-2010, 10:25 PM

I figured the 38-40 brass would spit when you bell mouth it.

tx gun runner · 09-05-2010, 11:09 PM

38-40 takes a .400 bullet what size are you trying to make it .... below is 30-40 Krag brass which is .308 and I make into 40-60 Maynard or 40 Krag which is .408 with no problems .

Snuffy · 09-11-2010, 12:10 AM

427

tx gun runner · 09-11-2010, 02:29 AM

44-40 brass is 10x easier to find then 38-40 and it loads .426 to .430 . I load 44-40 brass at .429 .

Snuffy · 09-11-2010, 08:36 PM

pretty good.

jody johnson · 09-22-2010, 02:05 PM

I was a gun-cravin' high-schooler when th' 41 was "born" but, if memory serves me correctly, Elmer Keith was involved in the "41 project," but the "police load" didn't prove to be what he and others envisioned. In the late 60's and 70's...even into the early 80's...there were several guys with the Harris County Sheriff's Office carryin' and shootin' the 41. A good friend did some serious work on hijackers with one, and, in a chase that we were in, me drivin' and him shootin', the 41 did a number on the rear tires of the bad guy's car.

Th' "N" frames DID "weight ya' down" tho', and today everybody is tryin' to cut weight on the duty rig any way possible.

I still use n' enjoy th' .41 today...but...it's a Blackhawk instead of a Smith. And...there are some really good buys "out there" on .41 Blackhawks...seems that they don't bring quite what the .357's and .44's do, especially used ones. When I bought mine several years ago, new, at a show, it was $20 bucks cheaper than the other calibers. Oh darn!!!!!

sheepdog · 09-22-2010, 07:41 PM

...the first M58 I bought was $61.50...new in box...I feel old...

44s Rock · 09-23-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepdog

...the first M58 I bought was $61.50...new in box...I feel old...

According to Snuffy you are old! Which makes me older.

Snuffy · 09-24-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepdog

...the first M58 I bought was $61.50...new in box...I feel old...

You look like you feel

sheepdog · 09-25-2010, 03:20 AM

...that's better'n feelin' like I LOOK, anyday!!!

Snuffy · 09-25-2010, 10:32 PM

Tell me do you still have to sneak up on your water bowl to get a drink of water??????????

sheepdog · 09-25-2010, 10:34 PM

....just close my eyes and lick till my tongue gets wet...if I taste steak well done I know I got the wrong bowl...

Snuffy · 09-26-2010, 07:45 AM

So I take it most times you find the kitty litter

sheepdog · 09-27-2010, 11:45 AM

...we don't have vermin at my house...no roaches, cats, or rats...they are purrsona non grata here...

Snuffy · 09-29-2010, 09:00 PM

How would ya know if you have to sniff to find the water bowl.

sheepdog · 09-30-2010, 04:28 AM

...didn't say "have to"...go clean yer guns and let me drink my coffee in peace!!!

08-26-2010, 11:01 PM	#21
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 4,999	Re: The 41 Mag The 38-40 is the 41 spec of the old guns . They screwup when they called it a 38-40 it is really a 40-40 . In a modern gun it can be loaded to almost 41 mag spec or if you load it with Black Powder makes it is super accurate round .

08-26-2010, 11:54 PM	#22
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *Then how come the brass in the 38 40 is different from the 44-40?*

09-05-2010, 10:25 PM	#24
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *I figured the 38-40 brass would spit when you bell mouth it.*

09-05-2010, 11:09 PM	#25
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 4,999	Re: The 41 Mag 38-40 takes a .400 bullet what size are you trying to make it .... below is 30-40 Krag brass which is .308 and I make into 40-60 Maynard or 40 Krag which is .408 with no problems .

09-11-2010, 12:10 AM	#26
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *427*

09-11-2010, 02:29 AM	#27
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 4,999	Re: The 41 Mag 44-40 brass is 10x easier to find then 38-40 and it loads .426 to .430 . I load 44-40 brass at .429 .

09-11-2010, 08:36 PM	#28
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *pretty good.*

09-22-2010, 02:05 PM	#29
jody johnson Senior Member Joined: Nov 2008 From: Houston Metro Posts: 173	Re: The 41 Mag I was a gun-cravin' high-schooler when th' 41 was "born" but, if memory serves me correctly, Elmer Keith was involved in the "41 project," but the "police load" didn't prove to be what he and others envisioned. In the late 60's and 70's...even into the early 80's...there were several guys with the Harris County Sheriff's Office carryin' and shootin' the 41. A good friend did some serious work on hijackers with one, and, in a chase that we were in, me drivin' and him shootin', the 41 did a number on the rear tires of the bad guy's car. Th' "N" frames DID "weight ya' down" tho', and today everybody is tryin' to cut weight on the duty rig any way possible. I still use n' enjoy th' .41 today...but...it's a Blackhawk instead of a Smith. And...there are some really good buys "out there" on .41 Blackhawks...seems that they don't bring quite what the .357's and .44's do, especially used ones. When I bought mine several years ago, new, at a show, it was $20 bucks cheaper than the other calibers. Oh darn!!!!!

09-22-2010, 07:41 PM	#30
sheepdog Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Duncanville, Tx Posts: 22,117	Re: The 41 Mag ...the first M58 I bought was $61.50...new in box...I feel old...

09-25-2010, 03:20 AM	#33
sheepdog Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Duncanville, Tx Posts: 22,117	Re: The 41 Mag ...that's better'n feelin' like I LOOK, anyday!!!

09-25-2010, 10:32 PM	#34
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *Tell me do you still have to sneak up on your water bowl to get a drink of water??????????*

09-25-2010, 10:34 PM	#35
sheepdog Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Duncanville, Tx Posts: 22,117	Re: The 41 Mag ....just close my eyes and lick till my tongue gets wet...if I taste steak well done I know I got the wrong bowl...

09-26-2010, 07:45 AM	#36
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *So I take it most times you find the kitty litter*

09-27-2010, 11:45 AM	#37
sheepdog Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Duncanville, Tx Posts: 22,117	Re: The 41 Mag ...we don't have vermin at my house...no roaches, cats, or rats...they are purrsona non grata here...

09-29-2010, 09:00 PM	#38
Snuffy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 4,142	Re: The 41 Mag *How would ya know if you have to sniff to find the water bowl.*

09-30-2010, 04:28 AM	#39
sheepdog Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Duncanville, Tx Posts: 22,117	Re: The 41 Mag ...didn't say "have to"...go clean yer guns and let me drink my coffee in peace!!!

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