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This is a discussion on Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN within the Semi Auto Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Forum category; Originally Posted by gunman42782 Originally Posted by sheepdog ...loadin' yer own or factory???? there IS a difference between .308 Win and 7.62 military, isn't there? ...


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Old 07-03-2011, 01:12 PM   #21
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

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...loadin' yer own or factory???? there IS a difference between .308 Win and 7.62 military, isn't there? in the brass, I mean(headspace, primer, etc)
The only difference that I am aware of is that the military brass is usually thicker, and you may have to reduce your loads accordingly.
Thatís my understanding also.
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:14 PM   #22
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

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gunman42782: Have you considered the new Ruger Gunsite bolt gun in .308?
That may be the way to go.... The M1A is hard to come by now days.... So I was looking for an alternative. I've looked ont he gunbroker site and don't see a Gunsite model.... Is it similar to what XLCH's bolt rifle or Bounty Hunter's Mini 14?
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

It's the rifle in XLCH's sig line.
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

I've now looked at the GSR on Ruger's website. Very nice!

It's still a bolt gun... Although with 10 rnd capacity instead of the 4 rnd A-bolt that I already have.

If I could trade the extremely accurate gun I have for it, I think it would be a good upgrade.... However...

I was trying to accomplish an accurate semi-auto without springing for the M1A.

I may consider the 14 in 223 (reduced cost shooting)... Or the 30 (compromising the power of the 308).

Thanks for all the help everyone. Still lookin' (Now I want the GSR too... damn it!)
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

The mini 14 or 30 will do what you need it to do, Pathfinder. Both are fairly cheap to shoot and with some 20 round mags, I have 10, you're golden.
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

I don't want to miss an opportunity to own an M1A.... BH, you sold yours.... XLCH, you still have a pair.

Are the Ruger's made as well as the Springfield rifle?
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

From all I've read they are tough as nails. Just as trustworthy as the springfield. I haven't fired mine yet. I got it in the winter and I have very few places I can shoot it around here. It just a mini M1A, and that's why I was drawn to it.
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

BH, With no shots, the mini isn't saving you money.... What was the reasoning for selling your M1A?

(I reload 308 WIN.... If I change to a mini, 14 or 30, I'll probably buy the dies to reload too).

Also, I have the opportunity to buy a EOTech for $240 used. (very slightly used).
As I remember, you also sold your EOTech around the time of the M1A sale.

Are you looking at iron sites as the be-all-end-all method of 'Zombie' removal, or do you plan on a scope on the mini?
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

I'm keeping the iron sights. I want the gun to be a simple as can be and a scope would get knocked about and I'd risk damaging it in a Bug Out situation. I can toss this gun around all day long and it should still go boom at the end of the day. It's shorter and lighter than the M1A and easier packing, etc. If you want the down range performance of the 308 get a mini in 6.8SPC and load your own. That's a great round.
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If you want the down range performance of the 308 get a mini in 6.8SPC and load your own. That's a great round.
There is some sort of 308 everywhere for the taking if things get that way, canít say that about the 6.8SPC, jmho
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That's also true of the 7.72x39 and the 223. If he goes with the 6.8SPC, he'd have to laod up his own. I have about 3600 rounds of 223. I always want more, but realisticly, how many do I need? If I'm forced to run, I'd only be able to carry just so many rounds of ammo. In a true SHTF situation, it would be lay low and avoid all conflict. I ain't Rambo, and wouldn't want to be in fire fights with my family along for the ride. I also have about 3500 rounds of 45acp, and about 1200 rounds of 9mm. I don't know how many rounds of 45Colt at the moment. If I was forced to stay put, I'd be fine. If I was forced to flee, I'd be leaving lots of ammo behind. I have 10, 20 round magazines for the Mini. That's 200 rounds, plus I'd take the Glock and 4 15 round magazines. That's the best I could do in a run type situation. The rest would just be left for the next guy. No need in arming them too. We always talk about picking up ammo that's left by others, but what about the ammo we'd all leave behind?
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

...some of us aren't nearly so well stocked...some of us are willing to carry more weight than others, and some of us would simply "announce" that we had left...appropriately...kinda like at the park on the 4th, donchaknow...
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......some of us are willing to carry more weight than others, ...

It's not a matter of willing. It's just a matter of practical. I'm guessing I could carry more than the average person on this forum, but that doesn't mean it would all be ammo. If you don't have water and a bit of food, the ammo will be useless real quick. Just got to prioritize and be a bit practical. I love reading about people who have 100,000 rounds of ammo, and have no water or food put away.
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Re: Browning BAR ShortTrak - 308 WIN

...I'd love it if they'd post their addys...
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Tell me about it! I'd run over take the ammo after they're dead and go home and have a drink of water.
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...you keep talking about running...old men don't run...it's not fun...instead, we make young men run...it's easier...so we get to stay home and drink our water...from our favorite bowl, in my case...
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I've had one for two years now. It's the only rifle I ever had that doesn't seem to hold zero well. I'm used to single shots & bolts actions. I've always been able to find a load that works with those pretty quick. The bar is really finicky, but I found a load it likes. I'll see how it does on deer this weekend. What questions do you have?
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Hey David welcome to the forum from Colorado! This thread is a couple years old, don't sweat it I do the same thing on other sites. But I'm interested in how your hunt goes, hope you stick around and give us an update on your hunt,hopefully with a grip-n-grin pic!
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They still let you guys shoot a deer a day down there for 3 months?
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Yes, welcome to the forum, David.
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