Snuffy

This evening I was in the New Academy of course I was in the sporting good section. There was a guy there looking for a home defense shot gun he wanted an 18 ga but the salesman said they were out of them and they did have 16 ga shotgun shells. And they did have 20 and 12 ga shotguns. Neither of them knew much about shotguns from what I heard. But maybe they will come up with an 18ga to go with the 305 that old sailor's used to hunt siernnnnnnnnnn's with lol.

Bountyhunter

18 gauge, huh? I'll have to keep my eyes open. Sounds like a collectable.

gunman42782

Sounds like some of the idiots that come into the shop!

Johngoboom

Wow...that guy must have really done his homework.

Snuffy

Well the sales person was nice and didn't bite his head off and I of course didn't start laughing out loud. The man was wanting a shotgun for home self defense. But at this point I am concerned about him having a fire arm of any type. And true he could have meant a 28 ga. which was never seen or heard of in this part of the world so some time but now they do sell the shell's for it.
I have heard that the true sportsman hunts birds with a 28 ga. I have only used a 12 and 20 myself. If they hadn't cut the barrel off of the mod 12 I would be using a 16 ga. just because I have never hunted with a 16 ga.

Johngoboom

Snuffy around here 28's were mostly used for grouse. They're quick handling little guns for fast moving small birds at close range. Plus if you're a reloader, they don't use a lot of lead or powder. They kind-of caught on as skeet guns for guys looking for a little more of a challenge, but you still don't see a lot of them.

Snuffy

Well looking at the shells only I wouldn't think that it would be a goose or duck gun for sure lol. I wonder how they would do on dove? I am sure they cost alot more than I would be willing to pay.

Johngoboom

They'd be fine on doves until they started flying high later in the season. 28's have a good habit of patterning really well with tight chokes.

My Grandpa used to use a Remington Model 11 28 gauge for pheasants, grouse, and rabbits. That little gun kicks like a mule. It's worse than my 870 with turkey loads.

Snuffy

No joke here I was thinking that it wouldn't kick that much. I was thinking less than a 20 ga.

Johngoboom

Well, normally they would. But if you ever shot any of the "humpback" Browing design shot guns you'd find they kick HARD. They're mechanically operated instead of gas. When you fire the gun, the whole barrel comes back to eject the shell, and you can feel that right in your shoulder. The model 11 of my Gramps was a featherweight, and it shoots like it.

sheepdog

...never liked the A-5s or the Model 11 for the kick...brutal...

Johngoboom

You got that right...It's a dead bang dependable design, but it sure ain't built for shooting targets.

Snuffy

Always wanted one felt I was cheated out of one but now I can see that I wasn't cheated at all sure hope that ole boy enjoys his hump back lol.

Et2ss

I have a Savage 720 in 12 ga (same design) and it does put a hurt on your shoulder after a couple-few rounds. Kind of like my model 8 in 30 rem. Same action, recoil operated. That coupled with the crescent buttplate leaves you wanting less after about 20 rounds