Deadeye

Is that #4 bird or buck?

Bountyhunter

I would assume #4 buck. Nothing bigger than #4 bird would be useless.

Snuffy

Back when you could get them in facory loads I use to use #5's on ducks until they came up with the point system. They worked fine for me.

sheepdog

...I'm still confused...they talk about #4 goose loads...that's just regular #4 one size up from #5 and two sizes up from #6, right??? I've seen #4 shot and they're pretty potent lookin'...especially in hi-brass...but I don't think they'd make a good anti-personnel round except across a small room...maybe they did mean #4 buck....

Bountyhunter

I thought that when Ermy was shooting it on his show he said it was buck shot.

sheepdog

...that would make more sense...

Bountyhunter

Indeed it would.

sheepdog

...that gun woulda made a hit in Nam...

Johngoboom

Goose loads are different than normal high brass lead loads. They use steel shot which runs much bigger than lead. It doesn't have the range that lead does as it weighs less, so they use bigger shot and hotter loads to make up for it. Steel loads basically suck. The new "super loads" bridge the difference and are still considered nontoxic, but they are expensive as heck.

Deadeye

It's amazing to me how many "knowledgeable" gun peopls don't know that there's a difference between buck & bird sizes.

Bountyhunter

Well it seems that Me, John, Snuffy and Sheepdog all know, so I don't know who you're referring to.

kim

Personally, I wouldn't care if it was 8's, with that kind of volume, you will have somebody's undivided attention
Molon Labe

Kim

Deadeye

I didn't mean people here. If i see #4 shot on a box I always ask the clerk if they're the same. Most of the idiots answer yes.


Just an observation.

Bountyhunter

Oh, ok. I was confused.

sheepdog

...Deadeye, I appreciate the chart...I usedta have one but lost it...

Snuffy

Well just for kicks I use to go in to a give gunshop and ask for some 305's Winchester high brass soft points in the green and red box. While the clerk would be looking for them they would most often ask what they were used for. Of course me not wanting to be at a loss for words would always tell them that old sailor's used them to hunt siernnnn's. Almost all of the time they would stop and look at me dead serious and ask what is a siernn???. I would of course tell them it was found on top of a fire truck. The look on their face was priceless. I agree thanks for the chart as I have zero experance with steel shot. Just like secrew in chokes I have no experance with them. I know they sell a bunch of them, but I'll just stick with the only barrels.