Snuffy

Now transfer bar has broken, aw different gun but of the same model. Wonder what their excuse/ reason is going to be this time .Bet they will want to know what I am using for ammo again. Their book says you can dry fire without damage guess what it will cause damage. So here I go again if my life depended on that gun to fire I would be dead. My China made shotgun still works after 2 years od hard service.

sheepdog

...I am sorry you're having so much trouble...if they "suggest" that you not dry fire that much, tell them you expect a coupla cases of ammo to hit the porch every week...

Cruelshoes

Dang! I keep going on about the reliability of revolvers, especially my Rugers. You gonna put me on hush mouth.

Sorry amigo.

tx gun runner

That sucks Tell them you want to swap the NV's for the older model that don't break , which is only 4 ozs heavier anyway .

deputy125

i've read that a few folks on the EAA bounty hunter model have removed the transfer bar because of breakage and "built-up" the hammer face eleminating the need for the transfer bar all-together.

of course this makes the weapon like an old colt and unsafe to load six.......but since you are CAS you only load 5 anyways...........

gunman42782

Dang Snuffy. Remind me not to let you borrow any of my sixguns!

tx gun runner

Now you have another problem if you do that . His guns he got his money back where that way and the firing pins sheared off because they don't retrack back into frame

Snuffy

It's a mess for sure, Called Ruger asked if this was a problem with the new vaquero's and was told the engneer's say its caused from fanny the gun. I told that person I shoot classic cowboy and only use one hand and one thumb. Long pause ok well that is what we are told. They are going to send me one free how nice of them. Still if my life depended on their guns to fire I would be dead.

Snuffy

I have found a man that can do this and when the hammer is in half cock the firing pin is retracked. So I plan to talk with him after the first of year and get them fixed that way. After I finsh paying for the Vaquero at the bore house I will not be buying any more ruger's. I fully plan to my best mean mouth ruger from now on and I really hope I do hurt their business. new guns shouldn't break.

XLCH

Snuffy take a look at what this man has to say about your problems with your Rugers.
You know stockcars are not stock and race guns aren’t either, could be that you are a little unfair thinking your stock guns should up to race gun specs, jmho.

Permalink Reply by Grant McMaster on May 12, 2010 at 2:48pm
Hi all,
This is Grant McMaster, owner of Competition Gun Works AKA Guns by Grant. For those of you who don't know me I have been a mounted shooter for 15 years and have been pistolsmithing for the mounted shooting comunity for same. I have tuned MANY thousands of Colts/Clones and of course Rugers. I thought it was about time to dispell all the transferbar discussions and lay out the facts. #1 Old model Rugers with stock hammers do not have t/bar problems. Old model Rugers will have a t/bar problem if blackhawk hammers are installed and not fitted correctly #2 ALL new model rugers and Montados WILL have t/bar issues. The problem is easy to correct by installing an old model (thats right an old model) t/bar and then CORECTLY fitting it to the hammer. The whole issue is that all of the new model t/bars conflict with the steps on the hammer. When sending your guns back, Ruger is not resolving the issue simply replacing parts. Feel Free to call me about this or any other gun related issue/questions you may have. My Cell # is 602-319-7244

tx gun runner

I've have 6 Vaquero's and a Blackhawk I've had cut the Bisley hammer down to fit them and ran them for years with no problem . About 3 years ago I switched them all to Super Blackhawk hunter hammers [which cock easier] , I narrow them down to slip hammer them better and that gave them the appear of the original hammers but alot lower , and NEVER broke anything in any of the guns . I have dry fire and slip hammer them 1000's of time each , plus 1000's of SASS/CAS loads threw them . I didn't think anything or anyone could break one till the NV came out . The only repair I have ever made to a SA Ruger was I replaced a firing pin , because the strike were light and found the firing pin was too short when it left the factory . All my SA Ruger I've retimed and put Powers spin free pawl with Wolff springs in all of them and they all have work perfect for me ... .

Snuffy

XLCH, I read it, still proves my point fuger can't fix it .My guns ony have 2 practise times and 1 big match and i monthly match. They can't hold up to that, strange my old models did that and much more. Aw let me point out to you that my China made shotgun it still going strong as well as the Italain made 73. Whats the matter can't fuger do as well as they can?? Fair ok whats fair, I didn't pay fixer up price paid new price. I sure don't want to fix a new truck before I can drive it, don't want to fix the sleve of a coat so I can wear it. So fuger can go to hell and I'll be sure to pay the frieght, cheap is cheap pal. Of course in China they don't have to hire someone because of the color of their skin or because they are a women. Have to addmit in China same rules for women as men all the way. Maybe that is one of the reason my China made shotgun is still going strong.

deputy125

sounds like a design problem with the new vaquero......something that requires labor intensive-hand fitting to properly fix.......

building up the hammer face does sound like the permenant fix.....

Snuffy

yes sir your right the man is going take out all the crap that fuger put in and make them like the colt. the price tag is around 300 bucks per gun. Of course I will have to live without fugers warrentee, I believe I can easly do that.

XLCH

Just shaking my head

deputy125

i think where the main gripe is here is that "Ruger is not resolving" part of this discussion......it appears to be either a defective part or defective fitting/design on a large scale on the NV and the matter is not getting to a final solution on ruger's part.........

if this issue is known to ruger, then they are knowlingly putting out a defective product. That in itself is a hard thing for me to say because i have been a champion of the ruger product line for a lot of years.


snuffy.......might not hurt to call this feller as his solution might be cheaper than my solution.

XLCH

I’m going to take my 44 spl and my 50 year 57 apart and look at this and see what I can see.

sheepdog

...kinda like a puzzle? both at the same time??? brave man!!!

deputy125

that's what shoe boxes are for......

XLCH

Yep