Gun free gun zone guns

tx gun runner · 02-12-2016, 07:42 AM

Black powder guns are not Firearms by Federal law and most states . So all the revolvers below are not firearms . I made and carried the 31 Remy since 1968 when my I could not carry my CCW gun . Check all state and federal laws before carrying . Bp is not corrosive until it is fire so you can leave it loaded in a gun for 200 years and there is no shelf either on the powder. .

2 of these guns below are BP gun and I can carry in a Gun Free zone . Only the 22 LR NAA is not legal in GFZ ....

The pic below is to compare the size of the 31 Remy to a "J" frame S&W . Remember the 31 Remy is compared to 32 ACP fps and lbs energy , so it not a 44 mag .
PS ..... All Remy SA are designed to carry all chamber loaded safely where that all Colt hammer must be on a empty chamber . .

303Lithgow · 02-12-2016, 08:33 AM

Those are nice looking too!

Hopalong · 02-12-2016, 09:24 AM

Thanks for the info and they are really nice!

RetiredSeabee · 02-12-2016, 02:42 PM

I have been tempted to buy a BP gun. The problem is the range I shoot at does not allow it. (indoor) I will have to wait till I find an outdoor range in a reasonable distance or buy a piece of land I can shoot on.

tx gun runner · 02-12-2016, 04:08 PM

Both these gun below is the 1st time and only time I ever shot them and the only targets they ever shots since I owned them .

Terry_P · 02-12-2016, 04:11 PM

Hey I got a 642 as well that's my GFZ gun as well.

gunjunkie · 02-12-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry_P

Hey I got a 642 as well that's my GFZ gun as well.

That's about the only time I carry my LCP.
Don't want to be at a disadvantage if someone goes postal.

tx gun runner · 02-12-2016, 04:54 PM

Your 642 or the LCP are not legal in a GFZ and you could lose you gun and licence and if Federal building some jail time too .

44s Rock · 02-13-2016, 08:20 AM

They may not be considered firearms by federal law but not all states see it that way, be caareful folks!

bearcatter · 02-13-2016, 09:03 AM

I don't think I'd like the hassle and mess of a BP gun. If I could, I'd like a Remington 1863 New Model Police, five shot, .36 caliber. Many of these were converted to .32 rimfire. You can see where Bill Ruger got his inspiration for the Bearcat.

tx gun runner · 02-13-2016, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44s Rock

They may not be considered firearms by federal law but not all states see it that way, be caareful folks!

In San Diego county Ca a pellet or BB gun is a firearm so check always your local laws .

A BB gun is banned In Philladelphia Pa you can not have a BB in your house if it is in the city limits . A pellet gun is OK

tx gun runner · 02-14-2016, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatter

I don't think I'd like the hassle and mess of a BP gun. If I could, I'd like a Remington 1863 New Model Police, five shot, .36 caliber. Many of these were converted to .32 rimfire. You can see where Bill Ruger got his inspiration for the Bearcat.

I love your gun .........................

bearcatter · 02-14-2016, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tx gun runner

I love your gun .........................

I found that photo on an auction site. The gun went for $508. Four and a half inch barrel, otherwise almost exactly the same size as a Bearcat. Makes me feel like I'm handling real history when I'm shooting my 'Cats.

tx gun runner · 02-14-2016, 02:09 PM

My P 'jr" Cimarron are the exact same size as the Remy 36 cal , since I have both guns in my safe .

303Lithgow · 02-14-2016, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatter

I don't think I'd like the hassle and mess of a BP gun. If I could, I'd like a Remington 1863 New Model Police, five shot, .36 caliber. Many of these were converted to .32 rimfire. You can see where Bill Ruger got his inspiration for the Bearcat.

Wow. I haven't been around much and almost missed seeing this.

bearcatter · 02-14-2016, 05:03 PM

I found this comparison on Gunblast.com. Bearcat at top, Remington New Police at bottom, but it has a 3.5 inch barrel. Inch shorter than the other one posted.

tx gun runner · 02-14-2016, 05:27 PM

They are pretty close only the cylinder are different sizes .

bearcatter · 02-14-2016, 06:27 PM

Here's a real purty Remington, if you have $ 9500 to spare......

..

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/ex...police-ah3751/

Cabela's in Scarborough ME has one converted to .22LR for $ 850. I have to wonder, Why?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/gun-l...dsPerPage%3D40

Terry_P · 02-15-2016, 05:48 AM

Been to Scarborough store a couple of times. Not a large store by Cabelas standards but the prices aren't small. They put a Bass Pro in Hooksett which is under 40 miles and no sales tax in NH.

My guess on the conversion is the BBL was pitted badly or buldged so they put on a new one and figured they convert if they had to do that.

tx gun runner · 02-15-2016, 11:26 AM

The minute your convert a BP gun to take cartridge it become a modern firearm and all modern firearm laws apply and can't be used in GFZ .

02-12-2016, 07:42 AM	#1
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	Gun free gun zone guns Black powder guns are not Firearms by Federal law and most states . So all the revolvers below are not firearms . I made and carried the 31 Remy since 1968 when my I could not carry my CCW gun . Check all state and federal laws before carrying . Bp is not corrosive until it is fire so you can leave it loaded in a gun for 200 years and there is no shelf either on the powder. . 2 of these guns below are BP gun and I can carry in a Gun Free zone . Only the 22 LR NAA is not legal in GFZ .... The pic below is to compare the size of the 31 Remy to a "J" frame S&W . Remember the 31 Remy is compared to 32 ACP fps and lbs energy , so it not a 44 mag . PS ..... All Remy SA are designed to carry all chamber loaded safely where that all Colt hammer must be on a empty chamber . . Last edited by tx gun runner; 02-12-2016 at 12:08 PM.

02-12-2016, 04:08 PM	#5
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	Both these gun below is the 1st time and only time I ever shot them and the only targets they ever shots since I owned them . Last edited by tx gun runner; 02-12-2016 at 04:10 PM.

02-14-2016, 06:27 PM	#18
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,012	Here's a real purty Remington, if you have $ 9500 to spare........ http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/ex...police-ah3751/ Cabela's in Scarborough ME has one converted to .22LR for $ 850. I have to wonder, Why? http://www.cabelas.com/product/gun-l...dsPerPage%3D40

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tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	Your 642 or the LCP are not legal in a GFZ and you could lose you gun and licence and if Federal building some jail time too .

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44s Rock Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,968	They may not be considered firearms by federal law but not all states see it that way, be caareful folks!

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bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,012	I don't think I'd like the hassle and mess of a BP gun. If I could, I'd like a Remington 1863 New Model Police, five shot, .36 caliber. Many of these were converted to .32 rimfire. You can see where Bill Ruger got his inspiration for the Bearcat.

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tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	My P 'jr" Cimarron are the exact same size as the Remy 36 cal , since I have both guns in my safe .

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bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,012	I found this comparison on Gunblast.com. Bearcat at top, Remington New Police at bottom, but it has a 3.5 inch barrel. Inch shorter than the other one posted.

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tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	They are pretty close only the cylinder are different sizes .

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Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,615	Been to Scarborough store a couple of times. Not a large store by Cabelas standards but the prices aren't small. They put a Bass Pro in Hooksett which is under 40 miles and no sales tax in NH. My guess on the conversion is the BBL was pitted badly or buldged so they put on a new one and figured they convert if they had to do that.

02-15-2016, 11:26 AM	#20
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	The minute your convert a BP gun to take cartridge it become a modern firearm and all modern firearm laws apply and can't be used in GFZ .