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Old 12-24-2010, 05:59 AM   #21
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Herr Mario, Thanks for taking a look. I will try to get a better picture
of the serial number section. Any suggustions on how to preserve the sling?

Deputy, I've got to presume you are asking HM these questions as I am quite clueless when it come to this gun. Sorry.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:12 PM   #22
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........as far as ammo goes-its expensive as heck wether you get it from Norma or Hornady or just about anywhere-around a buck a round... ...reloading your own saves immensely....I have around 400 handloaded and save it for those few times I shoot mine....yup-the monopods pretty much suck,and the aircraft wings were pretty much useless....I understand many removed them...did a little more digging but would love to see more detailed closeups of theserial#....any markings on the stock-closeups of the sling arrangements-is it detatchable???....I'd pretty much leave sling as is....rubberized canvas???...if you could take it off without hurting it I'd just store it in a big ziplock baggy to keep it from getting too much air-i cant see how firm it is....I'll bet its all matching #'s but I'd have to look...the below links will help you to find where to look.....the fact that it has the original monopod and A/C wings and sling and the dust cover for the bolt is a BIG plus toward value....you have any "documentation" of how it was aquired???-that also adds more value to a collector.....seems to be an early production early issue but I amd NO expert on these,and I cant see all the stuff I need to...I'd love to look in person...I do have 2 excellent reference books I can refer to...the only down side I can see is that the stock looks sorta shiny-is it from the flash???...because if the stock was sanded and refinished it would hurt the value some....are the screws staked???
.......when you get time,czech out some of the links below-you'll be able to learn much on your own about you historic piece...any if you got any questions just ask....if I dunno-I can get someone who does...


http://www.gunboards.com/sites/banzai/i ... m#Model_99
....scroll down to "japanese rifles"-also covers slings....

http://www.castle-thunder.com/series.htm
......another helpful site....look thru the links...

http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdispla ... Rising-Sun
....and lurk around on here-probably the best place to get info on anything Japanese-but some of the fellas on here have egos bigger than Obama and lovbe to intimidate newbies....but lots of info to glean....there is one standup great guy on there I personally know that goes by "riceone"...a wise old man who's quite an expert-you could always ask him too if you sign up....of course he also helps out at our site on Yesterday's Weapons
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there was a special on the military channel and it was about japanese weapons of WWII........from what i recall, they did mention that shiney stocks was a problem.
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[quote="Herr Mario...did a little more digging but would love to see more detailed closeups of theserial#....any markings on the stock-closeups of the sling arrangements-is it detatchable???....I'd pretty much leave sling as is....rubberized canvas???...if you could take it off without hurting it I'd just store it in a big ziplock baggy to keep it from getting too much air-i cant see how firm it is....I'll bet its all matching #'s but I'd have to look...the below links will help you to find where to look.....the fact that it has the original monopod and A/C wings and sling and the dust cover for the bolt is a BIG plus toward value....you have any "documentation" of how it was aquired???-that also adds more value to a collector.....seems to be an early production early issue but I amd NO expert on these,and I cant see all the stuff I need to...I'd love to look in person...I do have 2 excellent reference books I can refer to...the only down side I can see is that the stock looks sorta shiny-is it from the flash???...because if the stock was sanded and refinished it would hurt the value some....are the screws staked???
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I took another pic of the serial number. I think this one came out well.

I also took a pic of the screws. I don't know what you mean by "Staked". The sling is canvas, and it is removeable by removing screws.

I have No documentation only that I was told my grandfather brought it and it's associated sword from Korea.
Unfortunately my BIL thought he'd surprise me a few years ago and re-finished the stock.
I hope these help.
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...thinkin' 'bout Japan and Hiroshima...wonder if there's a collector's market in Japan and would there be accurate info on dates of mfg. and features or did that all go up....also are they allowed to collect rifles etc??? Seems a Japanese collector would pay much more than an American one..seein's how it's their history...



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Originally Posted by "Herr Mario...did a little more digging but would love to see more detailed closeups of theserial#....any markings on the stock-closeups of the sling arrangements-is it detatchable???....I'd pretty much leave sling as is....rubberized canvas???...if you could take it off without hurting it I'd just store it in a big ziplock baggy to keep it from getting too much air-i cant see how firm it is....I'll bet its all matching #'s but I'd have to look...the below links will help you to find where to look.....the fact that it has the original monopod and A/C wings and sling and the dust cover for the bolt is a BIG plus toward value....you have any "documentation" of how it was aquired???-that also adds more value to a collector.....seems to be an early production early issue but I amd NO expert on these,and I cant see all the stuff I need to...I'd love to look in person...I do have 2 excellent reference books I can refer to...the only down side I can see is that the stock looks sorta shiny-is it from the flash???...because if the stock was sanded and refinished it would hurt the value some....are the screws staked???
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I took another pic of the serial number. I think this one came out well.

I also took a pic of the screws. I don't know what you mean by "Staked". The sling is canvas, and it is removeable by removing screws.

I have No documentation only that I was told my grandfather brought it and it's associated sword from Korea.
Unfortunately my BIL thought he'd surprise me a few years ago and re-finished the stock.
I hope these help.
...yup- thats a 4th series mark to the left of the serial....but I couldnt make out what may be a mark on the right of the Nagoya symbol(which is to the right of the ser.no.)...if there is one there can you describe it??? it could be Izawa Jyuko made in Osaka...it would look like a 4 pointed star with a dot in the center-of which only 10,000 were made from 1942-45.....sling looks like rubberized canvas-and in pretty good shape.....by staked screws I mean that the screws to the barrel bands,triggerguard,sites,etc are staked when originally put together-meaning they too a punch and made a 'ding' whjere the slot for the screwdrivers are...this rolls over a bit and keeps the screw from turning/backing out....if you see the slots not lined up with the punchmarks they have at some time been removed for service...it they are lined up-therefore never unscrewed and untouched,odds are its still in its original factory condition beneath the woodline and has never been disassembled...my T99 long is that way....
....Korea??? ....how the heck did it get there... ...as I said I'm no expert....I can only tell you what I can find in my reference books,and I may even be lookin up something wrong,so dont take anything I've put down as 100% correct...and czech out those links I posted earlier....still,even with the resanded refinished stock it could go for $400 in my opinion-but the diehards would wanna look for more finer details and would possibly even offer more-and then there's the other extreme of "purists" that because of the refinishing wouldnt offer you .02....they are the type that want them with the mud of Saipan still crusted onto it and dont you dare remove it...
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...thinkin' 'bout Japan and Hiroshima...wonder if there's a collector's market in Japan and would there be accurate info on dates of mfg. and features or did that all go up....also are they allowed to collect rifles etc??? Seems a Japanese collector would pay much more than an American one..seein's how it's their history...
...from what I understandthey are not allowed to have weapons in Japan-mebbe some kinda special collectors can,dunno....millions were destroyed and likely we here have most of whats left .....there are numbers and manf. dates in the reference books for most things...the Japanese however ARE allowed the Samurai swords and I know that some that were brought back by our vets that had the family name and makers stamped into them have been reunited with their remaining families of the deceased...they are highly revered by them
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but I couldnt make out what may be a mark on the right of the Nagoya symbol(which is to the right of the ser.no.)...if there is one there can you describe it???

I have made a little drawing that depicts the mark. I hope it makes sense to you.

The screws are indeed staked. That is, they have a small dot next to them. The slots, however do not line up with them.

....Korea??? ....how the heck did it get there...
What I know of the gun is all hearsay. Grandpa died before I could get any info. It could have been France for all I know !
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Aaaarrrggghhhh !
I can't upload a "BMP" file.

any ideas on how I can change it to a jpg ?

Anyways, the marl looks like a large circle over a much smaller circle then
ther is an arc which goes from one side of the small circle, up and over the large then ends at the other side of the small one.
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Aaaarrrggghhhh !
I can't upload a "BMP" file.

any ideas on how I can change it to a jpg ?

Anyways, the marl looks like a large circle over a much smaller circle then
ther is an arc which goes from one side of the small circle, up and over the large then ends at the other side of the small one.
...no need to upload it-what you are seeing is the Nagoya arsenal mark...I see that and know thats what it is for sure.....I was referring to if there was another smaller symbol to the right of that Nagoya stamp because that was cut off in your pic-if there was a mark there that resembled a 4 pointed star ,like compass marks,it would make it the IzawaJyuko....like I said before,just look at those links-more info there that I could ever type
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....here's a pic of the siderail on my T99 long rifle....look at the markings...this one is a Series 35 Toyo Kogyo(nowadays known as MAZDA) manufactured in Hiroshima -according to the serial # in late 1944 to early 45...only 30,000 of these were made,so its bit scarcer than other models..


[attachment=2:3fpwhapm]t99 recvr sm.JPG[/attachment:3fpwhapm]

...it was picked up by Frank my Navy vet buddy....sent back home by him...sat in his house till 5 years ago when he gave it to me to watch over and pass onto someone appreciative when its my time, with its legacy and history documented....it was unfired since he picked it up....I gave it a carefull going over and made sure it was safe to fire,and on Thanksgiving day of 2006 I set him up on the back deck(...his legs are bad after all these years-hard to walk)-target about 40 yards away and he fired the first shot thru it since he picked it up all those years ago.....you COULD NOT scrape the grin off his face....he fired a full magazine thru it....all shots within an 8" target....not bad for a 84 year old guy...he's 87 now...hooked up with him on Christmas day and he's still full of spunk-just cant walk well...

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Aaaarrrggghhhh !
I can't upload a "BMP" file.

any ideas on how I can change it to a jpg ?

Open the picture in the Windows picture viewer. Along the bottom there is an icon for saving the picture that looks like a floppy and says "copy to". Click that and in the box for "save as type" choose jpeg or any other format on the drop down menu. It will save a copy of the picture at the selected location in the selected format.
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