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Old 08-25-2015, 05:40 AM   #1
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Why i carry a 642

I posted this to a answer another forum ..

The 642 is hammerless and can shoot all 5 shots inside a jacket pocket or purse and not worry about a hammer or slide jamming up on something in pocket or purse . I tell people who walk to or from your car in a bad area to put you hand on 642 gun in your jacket pocket or purse . You can point it at a bad guy without brandishing the firearm at them without them knowing it . I never just carry my 642 without my Glock 27 or 23C also . I hope this make sense .

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Old 08-25-2015, 06:46 AM   #2
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I carry my 638 for pretty much the same reasons.

In warm weather, this is the primary arm. As it cools and jackets permit, a .44spl 696 comes along too.
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Do plan to go with a 642 at some point, because, heck, I like J frames.

Here's my PC shop 637. It's the Wyatt Deep Cover with a bobbed hammer, so not quite as snag proof as a 642, but less so than a standard 637. Superb DA trigger.


Here's my latest J frame. It's an 8 shot 22 LR, the 317 Airlite. Only weighs 12.5 ounces.
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The 642 is my everyday carry. To me it is the perfect pocket carry handgun. I use a Simply Rugged pocket holster and forget it is there. If I felt the need for another I would put my SP101 either in an IWB holster or a Miami rig.
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The only problem is the hammer . Something in pocket or purse it is a 1000 to 1 shot that will happen something can get between the hammer and frame when firing it in your pocket or purse with a bobbed hammer . And a shrouded. 638 or the 642 almost impossible for that to happen too . . A bobbed hammer like the 638 and 642 is almost impossible to get snagged went pulling it out . I looked for a Wyatt Deep Cover [ without purple or pink grips ] for 2 years before I found my 642 TALO
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I must admit I wasn't familiar with a hammerless wheel gun. I take it they are DA only.
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My bobbed hammer 637 is DA, only, but the 642s have a hammer button, for lack of a better word, that you can slide back for SA work. Nowhere her as convenient or easy to use as a hammer, but still gives you the SA option.

TGR, the purple grip was an add on. More my style than basic black or pink.
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Here's my latest J frame. It's an 8 shot 22 LR, the 317 Airlite. Only weighs 12.5 ounces.
That looks like a good little plinker, and purdy too.
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My bobbed hammer 637 is DA, only, but the 642s have a hammer button, for lack of a better word, that you can slide back for SA work. Nowhere her as convenient or easy to use as a hammer, but still gives you the SA option.

TGR, the purple grip was an add on. More my style than basic black or pink.
The 642 is DA only and the 638 will shoot SA or DA and has the hammer button . The 642 has a small light weight hammer which is faster then a model 60 and can be a problem if you put a lighter hammer springs on hard primers . On your Wyatt did they shorten the hammer travel or is it stock travel . Is the DA under 10 lbs .
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Here's my latest J frame. It's an 8 shot 22 LR, the 317 Airlite. Only weighs 12.5 ounces.
That is a nice pistol. The fact its .22WMR makes it even better.
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So all this talk about shooting from inside your pocket begs the question does the blowby pose any problems.
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Hammer on the Wyatt is short throw and way under 10 pounds in pull. I can shoot it as easily as shooting a typical DA revolver in SA. Even so, have never had a single misfire with the gun using any kind of ammo. Not sure how they managed that, but well worth the little extra to get the version.
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So all this talk about shooting from inside your pocket begs the question does the blowby pose any problems.
About 25 years ago I took a model 38, an old winter coat and a handful of cartridges to the range. I shot one shot, blew a hole and some insulation out. Four more and the jacket was on fire (not bad, but enough that I didn't want to wear it anymore immediately).

I haven't tried it again. It worked and it will be a discreet life saver in the future if needed.
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303, it's a 22 LR, not a 22 mag on the 317, though they do make a 22 mag Airlite and I have considered getting one of those, too. Like I said, I love these little J frame guns. They really spoil you because they are not only so easy to carry, they are also very shootable, once you work out a way to grip them. Might be something you want to carry on your hiking trips.

The little 317 is so light in weight - even lighter than the 38s, thanks to the alloy cylinder - that it is a challenge to shoot, but I'm getting on to it. I take it along on every range trip and do a little shooting with it. Fairly easy to keep all 8 shots under three inches at 12 yards from a standing position, now. The key was working out a way to grip it.
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Hammer on the Wyatt is short throw and way under 10 pounds in pull. I can shoot it as easily as shooting a typical DA revolver in SA. Even so, have never had a single misfire with the gun using any kind of ammo. Not sure how they managed that, but well worth the little extra to get the version.
The hammer on the Wyatt is bobbed but I believe it still has a little more weight [ guess ] then the 642 hammer and with a lighter hammer spring will hit hard then my 642 will with a lighter spring . I had to put the stock spring too get the good primes hits . Jerry Miculek has all shorten DA hammer travel on 90% his DA S&W . I would love to shoot your Wyatt so please mail it to me and I will return it in a year or so .
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My bobbed hammer 637 is DA, only, but the 642s have a hammer button, for lack of a better word, that you can slide back for SA work. Nowhere her as convenient or easy to use as a hammer, but still gives you the SA option.

TGR, the purple grip was an add on. More my style than basic black or pink.
I thought of getting a Henry Survival Rifle.
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I thought of getting a Henry Survival Rifle.
That rifle has been made for 30 yrs or more under different company's . I've had 3 of them over the years . Great gun but I think a 22 auto pistol makes a better survival gun unless you drop it in the lake . .
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That rifle has been made for 30 yrs or more under different company's . I've had 3 of them over the years . Great gun but I think a 22 auto pistol makes a better survival gun unless you drop it in the lake . .
I was just looking for an excuse to get one. Fact is I doubt I would ever carry one in the mountains.
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Just get one and get it over with.

You know you won't be disappointed.
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I always thought they were neat little rifles. My little Brother had the Armalite AR-7. It shot a lot better than I figured it would.
The newest Henrys will hold 3 mags in the stock.
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