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Old 12-23-2016, 12:57 PM   #1
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My every day carry gun

My EDC is an old Model 10-7 2" barrel from 1979. I had been carrying my Colt Det Spec for the past 15 years and had a situation back in April of last year when I had to pull it out to protect myself from a car jacking...the hammer got hung up on my shirt and that concerned me a bit and decided that would never happen again. I modified my old Model 10-7..bobbed the hammer (kept the original) for DAO, smoothed out the trigger and added a set of Hogues. It shoots POA at 21ft all day long. That day in April still scares the hell out of me as I really came close to pulling the trigger on someone..my training did kick in. Here's a pic of the Colt Det Spec from 1972 and my S&W Model 10-7
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:17 PM   #2
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I think your bobbed Mod 10 is a step up and a good choice for a DAO defensive gun. The S&W K frame is the ideal size for me for DA work.

This Mod 65 is probably the closest I have to that.



I carried this J frame Mod 638 daily for over ten years. I had a set of Lasergrips on it as the sights were hard to see in poor light. The J frame carried well but the K frame is much more effective for me.

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Old 12-23-2016, 04:02 PM   #3
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Another fan of the K frame. Most of my Smiths have been traded off, but the one I miss the most is the Model10. Was way more accurate with it than the J frames.
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You're making me drool over both of those but especially the Det Spl.

So did you prevent the jacking?
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Old 12-23-2016, 06:15 PM   #5
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This happened in the back of a large Hardware chain store parking lot. There were three of them...young men in there 20's. They were not armed that I could see..was aware of where their hands were. Being 73 years old I'm too slow to run and to old to brawl...when they saw that I was armed two ran but one came toward me..that's when the Colt went into single action and that's when he ran off.
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Thanks for sharing that story. I'm glad you came out all right.

Thank you more for sharing the story that even though you were armed with a very capable firearm, it's normal state of being caused an issue.

There is a good reason people bob the hammers. There is a better reason companies designed the shrouded hammer and internal hammer on revolvers. The hammer spur snags on garments. I used to carry a nickel model 49. I now carry a 638 every day. The K frame is a better shooter for me, but the J frame carries much better. That's what I need.

I do have two Detective specials with the add on hammer shrouds. Seeing your Colt makes me wonder about dusting one off.

Thanks for a great, real life story.
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Old 12-25-2016, 09:13 AM   #7
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don't see many 2" model 10's floating around anymore...........a sweet gun.

i as well have always liked shrouded hammers. one of my first off-duty guns was an old Smith model 38 Bodyguard. While i rarely cocked the hammer, it was still nice to have the option.

it would be nice if someone made those bolt on hammer shrouds for Smith like they did for colt.....

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I don't know a thing about gun-smithing, but I did read, a long time ago, that cutting the spur would reduce the hammer strike on the primer. I assume you did not have any issue with this. Did you change any springs?
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I don't know a thing about gun-smithing, but I did read, a long time ago, that cutting the spur would reduce the hammer strike on the primer. I assume you did not have any issue with this. Did you change any springs?
If you look at the pictures of the original hammer and the bobbed one you can see the loss of mass is small, and weight removed, while reducing momentum, will increase velocity somewhat. Lots of S&W K and L frames had the hammers bobbed or made without hammer spurs for police orders before the big move to autos and they worked fine. A revolver with that marginal a hammer strike might not be a good choice in any case. With Colts I have left much of the lug in place just removing the spur extension. The lug, if smoothed, will not catch and it leaves most of the mass in place. I do not EVER lighten the mainspring on a revolver. I find that smoothing the trigger is more important to good DA shooting than a lighter pull if it is not ridiculously heavy. A strong spring gives reliable ignition and a strong trigger return spring gives a fast and positive reset, though I have slightly lightened a reset spring if I have smoothed up the parts. The factory went to a heavier spring to offset the reduction in hand fitting and polishing on the factory guns. . .
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I do not EVER lighten the mainspring on a revolver. I find that smoothing the trigger is more important to good DA shooting than a lighter pull if it is not ridiculously heavy. A strong spring gives reliable ignition and a strong trigger return spring gives a fast and positive reset, though I have slightly lightened a reset spring if I have smoothed up the parts. The factory went to a heavier spring to offset the reduction in hand fitting and polishing on the factory guns. . .
+1 Lighter spring are OK for target work , but not for DA revolver for defense work in my opinion .
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Got to chime in with my agreement as well. All my SD revolvers have stock springs. To me the key is to smooth the action rather than lightening the springs. If the pull is smooth don't imagine I will have any problem getting the trigger back in a SD situation.
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Another one, here, for not doing the spring trick on a revolver. The couple times I've tried it, had to fight with light strikes with this or that type of ammo. That is the reason I never buy a revolver, anymore, sight unseen. Haven't done so in many years. I insist on testing the trigger on every gun I buy, first. If the seller has a problem with that, I find a different seller. I will not take a handgun home if it has a lousy trigger. No exceptions.

I do know how to do trigger work, too. I will do some stone work to remove roughness, if need be, and I also know how to safely remove creep from various types of handguns. However, i save myself a lot of hassle and headaches by just taking home a gun that has a good trigger in the first place.

I do think manufactures would do a better job on triggers if buyers were a bit more fussy and demanding. Not talking about match grade triggers, either, just decent triggers that won't compromise reasonably accurate shooting. I have no sympathy with folks who buy guns, online, and later complain about a bad trigger. To me it's like buying a car without even having started the engine.
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