bearcatter

I'm debating upgrading the sling and swivels on my 10/22 Sporter. It came with one inch fixed swivels, so for QDs I have to remove the loops and drill the stud hole all the way through. No problem, I did that to a Carbine model years ago.

I'm wondering about size, and why there are 1 inch and 1 1/4 inch swivels. Is there some advantage to either size? ( You can tell I'm a real rifle guy......)

I've used Uncle Mike Super Swivels in the past. Now I read good about GrovTec, and Talon, even though they don't lock. Butler Creek slings come with Uncle Mikes, and Bandera slings come with GrovTecs. Outdoor Connection uses Talons on some of their slings.

I could use Butler Creek's Mountain Sling, or Bandera's Dominator. My current sling is DIY one inch web, and I like simple unpadded slings. I may keep my DIY and just upgrade the swivels. Then again, what I've got has worked fine for six years. I seldom shoulder carry, but I sometimes use the sling around my forearm to steady my shooting.

303Lithgow

A wider sling is easier to carry over the shoulder.

Terry_P

Can you get a sling that tapers to 1" but is wider where it goes over the shoulder? Then all you have to do is buy the sling.

bearcatter

There are some one inch slings with shoulder pads, usually a cobra shape. Inch and a quarter seems to be the thing now, though. Like a quarter inch makes any real difference.

I can fix my Ruger studs for QD swivels in no real time or trouble. I hear Uncle Mike's swivels are now Chinese. IF I change anything, I'll get the Bandera Dominator, comes with 1 1/4" GrovTec swivels for $20. The swivels alone sell for $ 15.

303Lithgow

That quarter inch is 25% more contact area. I think it makes a big difference.

RetiredSeabee

I picked up this one a while back at Cabela's It looks great on my 10/22. It is a bit stiff but I haven't used it much.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/ruger...=ruger%2Bsling

303Lithgow

Looks good.

bearcatter

I've decided to stick with my original fixed swivels. "Old school" but do what I need them to do. That Ruger Cobra sling might be the trick. There aren't many slings out that don't have swivels sewn into them, much less in 1 inch size.

DvlHownd

Actually, they do lock, but not in the way you might think. The "Old School" swivels would have their plunger sleeves screw down hard against the swivel bodies and stop once the sleeve hit the swivel body. The way that the GrovTec Swivel "locks" is in that the metal knurled sleeve, when it screws back into place against the swivel body after installation, disengages from the threads, making it free-spin. That means the knurled sleeve which acts as the plunger to open the link (or gate) on the opposite side, can never inadvertently "unscrew" and allow the plunger to be pressed open by accident and release the swivel thus providing your rifle or shotgun some free engraving courtesy of rocks. To unlock the GrovTec swivel from the swivel stud, you have to physically pull outward on the steel knurled sleeve to make it engage the threads in order to make it extend to the active plunger position before you rotate the link to remove the swivel from the stud.

Dennis H

Welcome to the forum dvlhownd!

tx gun runner

If you use a Cobra type sling there is no real different 1" & 1 1/4" . If you use the straight type strap the 1 1/4" wider one is more comfortable for carrying after long carry time . I like the 1" narrow straight sling with the 1000 adjust holes , if I use the sling as tool for a holding rifle when aiming in matches . All my hunting guns I had studs in all my stocks and the swivels are mount on the carry sling so I could switch my favorite sling to any of my gun I own . That is my 2 cents

bearcatter

I understand how Mike's and GrovTecs lock. It was the Talon I meant that don't lock. Simply spring loaded. If they get pushed right by accident, or the spring breaks, you could get damage.

My DIY sling is just 1 inch heavy duty web, with a Delrin slider, Delrin buckle, and a few minutes hand sewing. Cost me about five bucks. I've decided to stay with it, since I rarely carry my 10/22, just use it most as a hasty sling.

DvlHownd

Thank you Sir!

DvlHownd

The Talon system is the way most all swivels used to be made prior to the mid-eighties. But I agree. People will spend north of a grand on a rifle, and another grand for the glass on top of it, go on an expensive once in a lifetime big game hunt but don't even think what can happen when you put a ten dollar swivel on their rifle that will unlock/fail, drop your rifle, bend your scope, and ruin your hunt.

Dennis H

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