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Old 05-24-2016, 09:38 AM   #1
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Beretta 84F I Said I'd Never Buy a .380...

I always said I'd never own a .380, but I fell in love with the looks of the Beretta Cheetah when I saw one at my LGS. AIM Surplus had used ones for $ 369, vs my LGS price of $ 779 new. So I had to buy one. Got my Beretta 84F from my local kitchen table FFL yesterday. Looks pretty good with the exception of some rather nasty scrapes on the front strap that I'm betting were caused by a lefty shooting with a ring on. It has a few small dings like it's been dropped a couple of times, but nothing too bad. (What's that old joke? Italian surplus gun--never fired and only dropped once?) Very minimal holster wear. I've already ordered a Pearce finger groove insert for a compact 1911 that I think will work great with very minor trimming. (That's the kind that fits under the existing grips and gives you a row of rubber finger grooves on the front strap) That will cover the scrapes and I think he gun will look pretty nice. The bore and the internals look great. This is one of the biggest .380 pistols made, and also highest capacity at 13+1. It's very nearly the size of my Springfield P9C, which is a CZ75 Compact clone in 9mm, and it's bigger and heavier than my 9mm Shield.
I really want to shoot it, but I have the .22 league tonight. Every time I've shot a centerfire gun before the league I've shot terribly with the .22. Got to defend my slim 11 point lead after the first 2 rounds.


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Old 05-24-2016, 02:12 PM   #2
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She's purty! Good luck tonight! Shoot the new one tomorrow.
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Old 05-24-2016, 04:20 PM   #3
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Yes, best of luck, tonight, too. Bet that size of a gun in a 380 would shoot like a 22 LR. Probably impossible to wear out, too. We'll be expecting a range report, of course.
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Old 05-24-2016, 05:27 PM   #4
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Back from the .22 league and wow, I would never have thought I could shoot that badly. Guess I won't have the pressure of defending first place next week. Or any other week for that matter. Barney Fife could hold steadier on slow fire.
Looks like the Pearce finger grooves aren't going to work out . There are ridges under the grip that have to fit into the frame. They can't sit on that other piece of rubber. So, I wasted $12 unless I can use the Pearce insert on another gun. I figure to shoot the new gun on Friday if I can get out of my post-league depression by then.
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Sorry about the league shoot going south on you.
The new/ old pistol is a classic. Looking forward to hearing how she shoots.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:22 AM   #6
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Sorry to hear about the league, Shaky, but you're still a champion in our book. You'll be back in no time.
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Got to the range with the Beretta this morning and shot 100 rounds, all 90 gr PMC Bronze. (Got 400 rds for $ 12.80/box from Cabela's.) No malfunctions--the gun throws the empties high and hard at 4 o'clock. With the whole top of the slide open, I think it would be tough to make this gun jam. I didn't really try any "precision" shooting, nor did I go past 10 yards. Just trying to get the feel of it today. This target was shot fairly quickly, 24 shots at the body and 10 at the head, all at 10 yd. Decent usable self defense-type accuracy, considering I found the sights pretty hard to pick up.



The recoil of this gun is NOT as light as you'd think. It's a blowback design, which I'm told makes for more felt recoil. Recoil would be similar to a lot of compact metal 9mm's, and I'd say my Springfield P9C (shown in the 2nd pic) is softer shooting than the Beretta .380. The P9C isn't much different in size, but is 12 oz heavier at 35 oz. The recoil of the Beretta seems to concentrate all in one spot at the crook of my thumb and forefinger, and that area was good and red after 100 shots.





The trigger is great both in SA and DA. The SA trigger pull came in at 5 lb 6 oz, and is very crisp with a very short reset. After a shot, there's really no perceptible movement that WON"T reset the trigger. The DA pull was 9 lb 2 oz, and very even from start to finish with no stacking or hitches. Easily the best DA trigger of any semi I have.

I was thinking before I bought it that this might be a good "ladies" carry gun, if you'll forgive my sexist remark. Given that the size, weight, recoil, and capacity are all similar to several 9mm guns, and the fact that the slide is quite hard to rack, kind of makes it a gun with no noticeable useful purpose. That's okay for me, since I bought it for looks and as a fun gun, If anyone was looking for this type of gun for carry/SD, I'd say go ahead and get a 9mm like a CZ Compact, an EAA Pavona, or even a Beretta 92 Compact. (I'm talking about metal DA/SA guns here, so no need to post about the Glock you shot 30 years ago.)

Overall, I'm liking the gun so far, and I think I'll put my fair share of rounds through it. I might even carry it now and then.

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Shaky, your description of the recoil every much the same as my Walther PPK. And like you I got the gun for fun and because it is a classic design. I have carried it and it does carry very nicely. Thin and though it is heavier than My Kahr CM9 it doesn't feel it. But I do prefer at least a 9mm or better for carry.
The DA trigger you describe also sounds like the trigger on a 92FS I shot today very smooth but long.
Thanks for the update and pics. That springfield is a looker as well.
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I had a Beretta 84 a long time ago for a short time. It was a nice gun, very well made and finished, but the wide butt made it impossible to conceal. I could not see any situation where I could carry it that I could not have carried a 1911 or other service type full power gun. I wished it was a mod 85, the same thing with a single stack magazine. That would have been slimmer and easier to hide and handle. I traded it off and tried something else, but I liked the gun. I liked the old style Beretta safety as well. It was frame mounted and could either decock safely or work like a 1911 safety for cocked and locked use. I have a Taurus Pt 100 that uses the old style Beretta safety like that. I wish the new Berettas had it instead of the slide mounted units.

Nice gun for fun. My .380s are a Ruger LCP and a Walther PK380..
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