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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 | Deciding on my reduction
I've posted before about reducing my "arsenal"......I'm thinking I'll keep both Bearcats, my Guardian, and buy a second Guardian as a backup if one is off for repair. Or if the cops hold it a while after I've used it? The Guardians will do carry and house gun. Bearcats for cheap fun. That's all I need, really. I haven't shot the 10/22 in over a year. Rarely shoot the SP101 .357 since I decided it was a poor carry. The SP in .22 is okay, but for .22 I enjoy the Bearcats more. They are a lot easier to clean, too. |
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Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,626 |
IMHO.............I would prefer the SP even in 38 SPL as a house gun over any 32 ACP. If you have some meth head kick your door down not sure a 32 would stop him short of a brain hit. If there are 2 or 3 of them you may feel a bit undergunned.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
I've thought about that on the .357 SP. Also, I'd have half a dozen holsters, four sets of grips, and a sizeable baggie of spare parts to eBay. Plus 1500 rounds of .38 to get rid of, 300 rounds of which is Hornady XTP in non-factory plastic boxes. For me right now, that's a lot of hassle. It may end up one Bearcat, one SP, and two Guardians. It would be tough to decide which Bearcat, but there are several minor differences...... |
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Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,626 |
Have a look at the Sig P365 and you could easily turn your 22 SP into one of those and not have to decide on which Bearcat.
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,973 |
The wife is doing the same thing, just finished going through her safe weeding out what she no longer wants. She is just keeping her 870 an two M&Ps.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 | Quote:
If I had it all to do over again, I'd maybe have bought two Walther PPK; stainless .32 and .22, and be done with it. But I didn't know then what I know now. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Dec 2012 From: in the wind or on the beach Posts: 4,963 |
I'd never get rid of the SP. Other than that I guess its whatever you think will stop a threat.
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2015 From: High Desert of South Arizona Posts: 863 | Quote:
i know you're ruling out buying more guns, but if it were me and I had that much 38 ammo, I'd invest the $325 for a Smith J-frame .38 and carry that. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
You guys have me leaning toward Bearcat, 357 SP, and Guardian. If I keep the SP, I won't need a second Guardian backup. J-frames are a good size, but I just can't get by their lockwork compared to the SP. I liked LCRs, until Ruger replaced two, then one of those a second time. I'd never trust another one. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2013 From: northern wisconsin Posts: 6,001 |
I will echo what the others are saying about the 32 ACP as being a weak choice for a house gun. The 32 ACP has always been essentially a belly gun. Would much rather have something like a 38 that could up your odds of stopping a threat before it gets that close. It's not like the SP is some big, heavy slow handling revolver and recoil with 38s in the SP is certainly not an issue.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
Hi, NGC! We don't hear from you enough these days..... ![]() I know the SP is a much better SD gun, just big for concealed. Twice the weight and over twice the bulk of my Guardian. I don't do too badly with the Guardian, considering my minimal practice. I stick with ten yards, and average 7 inch groups. Not great but acceptable. I only manage about 4 with the SP, shooting 130 gr FMJ 38.. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2015 From: High Desert of South Arizona Posts: 863 |
I dunno, I have a rough time thinking of an SP101 as "too big to carry." I've been known to stick my S&W 69 4 inch 44 mag in my pocket for a walk around the neighborhood. Yeah, most of the grip sticks out of my pocket, but I can pull a t-shirt over it and it really doesn't feel bad.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
This compares a SP101 with a Seecamp. Seecamp is the size of a Guardian 32, within a sixteenth or so. Add the fact that a SP101 is 26 ounces empty, compared to 15 ounces for a loaded Guardian. ![]() Last edited by bearcatter; 08-21-2019 at 09:29 AM. Reason: changed SP101 weight, snub is 26, .22 is 30 oz |
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Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,626 |
I think the 30 Oz is for the long BBL SP. When I bought mine they listed it at 25 oz and now they list at 26 oz. Guess the MIM parts add weight ![]() |
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
You are right, 26 ounces empty for the snub SP. Would be 28 or so loaded. Memory is starting to go, too....... ![]() The Seecamp in the photo is listed as a 380, but all three Seecamps are the same size; 25, 32, and 380 so it's still a valid compare. NAA's 380 is larger and 6 ounces heavier than the 32. |
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Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,626 |
My Beretta Pico .380 weighs in at 11.5 oz empty and is 6+1. I carry it when I'm walking as it is pretty unnoticable.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
Being a Ruger fan, I really tried to get an interest in one of the LCPs, but I just can't do plastic. Only two ounces under my Guardian, anyway. One negative is having to pry out the takedown pin, seems a cheap setup. They do have a habit of walking out or shearing. Plus, even with the locked breech helping reduce recoil, I read it's too snappy. I wrote the CEO suggesting a .32 ACP model.
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Member Joined: Mar 2018 From: Longwood, Fl Posts: 80 |
The muzzle blast from a short barreled.357 in a bedroom will hurt your ears. I prefer a compact 9mm such as a Ruger SR9C or Security-9. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,973 |
I did not like the LCP, way too small for my chubby paws. My M&P9 Shield with the 8 round mag fits great and at 20.8oz is hardly noticeable.
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Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 4,021 |
Well, I'm set on a second Guardian 32. Whenever Davidson's gets some in. I've had mine since March '18, and they've only gotten more twice in that time, and only about a half dozen each time. Just curious, checked Gun Broker and they don't list any either. Still, I don't do GB. The 10/22 will go, and the .22 SP. Maybe one Bearcat. I'll probably keep the 357 SP. Progress! I'm thinking to wait closer to Christmas, and everything may sell better. |
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