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44s Rock 08-06-2020 08:45 AM

P320 Sig Issues?
I've been rethinking my P320C9, I really like it and have never had any trouble with it, before or after the recall, but all of these lawsuit claims are starting to concern me.

Now, my primary carry is IWB in a BlackRhino Concealment CTS but I also often use a Simply Rugged Cuda for OWB. It did come with a Sig paddle holster but have never used it. It's not like I don't have other options, I have the same setups for my M&P 9 and Shield. Well, only the CTS for the Shield. I have yet to get a CTS for my M11-A1. I did pick up a We The People IWB holster real cheap, $15, and it is, probably wouldt be bad if they would have rounded the edges, really sharp. For that one it is OWB in Simply Rugged or 1791. Anyway, back on subject.

For the life of me, I can not understand how an undisturbed pistol in a quality holster will fire on it's own. I could understand if trying to un-holster or re-holster or drop but to just move without touching the gun as claimed just does not make any sense too me. So far, I can't find any info other than claims or lawsuits about what is going on, or any specific models.

Have any of you seen anything on this? What are your thoughts?

Terry_P 08-06-2020 12:56 PM

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The only way it will fire is pull the trigger. Here is a page from the armorers course I took. that explains the sear disconnector and the striker block.

Here is a quote from a user at Sig Talk that looked into the supposed issue:


Originally Posted by Lancer L5 AWM (Post 5231746)
1) In the case of the female Loudoun County VA deputy in plainclothes for a training class, she was attempting to remove the belt from her "non-department approved" inexpensive Sig-iTac holster, when it discharged. Her Department publicly stated they have full confidence in the P320 platform.
I think Sig settled simply because it was their pistol AND holster, and it was cheaper to just settle than attempt to prove the deputy was negligent.

2) The Pasco County FL deputy was eventually fired when the investigation resulted in him admitting he was fiddling with the pistol in and out of the holster when he accidentally caused it to discharge.

"A student told a detective he had in the past seen Cross lifting his weapon up and down out of its holster, and Cross admitted during the investigation that he had a bad habit of fidgeting with his gun, Nocco said.
The Sheriff’s Office and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement each conducted tests of the pistol and found the gun was functioning properly at the time."

Almost two years ago an officer in Minnesota, who was assigned to a special needs school, had a light bearing Glock discharge in the Safariland holster after a young boy reached his skinny finger into a gap in the holster and manipulated the trigger. No one was hurt.


I suspect the AD's were really ND's. It could be strings off a jacket getting in the trigger guard prior to holstering or level 3 retention holsters that catch the trigger. I find it exceedingly hard to believe the gun went off by itself.

44s Rock 08-07-2020 07:58 AM

Thanks Terry. Again, all I could find were claims, no explanations, that makes more sense. What has there been, 5 or 6 claims out of some 500,000 guns, and I know they proved a problem on the dropping issue. Sometimes, some people see an easy out when they screw up. Well, see, it happened before! I have to believe, at this point, Sig has tested the crap out of the P320. Isn't the P365 basically the same firing system?
Anyway, thanks again!

Terry_P 08-07-2020 08:53 AM

Basically a downsized version with the drop fix and a few mods.

This guy is a little tough to watch but he is accurate in his assessments.

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