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Old 06-16-2014, 05:58 AM   #141
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Tgr I'm sure u know the recoil ft lbs of a typical 416 Rigby type felt recoil and the felt recoil of the new 3.5 12 guage slug/turkey load......which is heavier?
Here is all information you will need in these 2 paste . Not everything is black & white . People buy there wife or child a 20 gauge and the 20 gauge 1oz kick 15% hard then a 12 gauge 1 oz with the same gun , weight and choke .

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/12gauge.htm

Gauge, length
(oz. shot @ MV) Gun weight
(lbs.) Recoil energy
(ft. lbs.)
.410 bore, 2.5" (1/2 at 1200) 5.5 7.1
.410 bore, 3" (11/16 at 1135) 5.5 10.5
28 gauge, 2.75" (3/4 at 1200) 6.0 12.8
20 gauge, 2.75" (7/8 at 1200) 6.5 16.1
20 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1220) 6.5 21.0
20 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1175) 6.5 25.0
20 gauge, 3" (1 1/4 at 1185) 6.5 31.0
16 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1220) 7.0 21.5
16 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1240) 7.0 27.6
12 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1180) 7.5 17.3
12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1200) 7.5 23.0
12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/4 at 1330) 7.5 32.0
12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/2 at 1260) 7.5 45.0
12 gauge, 3" (1 5/8 at 1280) 7.5 52.0
12 gauge, 3" (1 7/8 at 1210) 8.75 54.0
10 gauge, 3.5" (2 1/4 at 1210) 10.5 62.9

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Old 06-16-2014, 06:27 AM   #142
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For some reason, I thought that you traded it off and just kept your .444 Contender barrel. The 22" short magazine, pistol gripped rifles are among the best looking, and handling, that Marlin made.
I did. Traded off my 444 and my Marlin 44 mag to a local gun shop, but made me so sick and upset, went and got them back. Sacrificed a couple of pistols to do it, but felt so right to have those two Marlins back, I have no regrets at all. Haven't missed the pistols, at all. Yup, sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone, as they say.
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I've shot several elk with buffalo bore 45-70 405 grain 2000 fps 3600 ft lbs of nrg. 3.5in slug was worse!
Dennis, when I first bought my Wesson & Harrington Buffalo Classic years ago (still have it!) I tried several different cast and jacketed loads, culminating with the Hornady 500gr JSP Interlock with a healthy dose of 3031. HOOWEE!!! I shot up that box of 50 but after that settled on 300 and 405gr JSPs and a variety of cast, usually 2200 ~ FPS for the 300gr and 1750~ for the .405s.

I wore a padded high power shooting jacket shooting those 500s but still... I bet the muzzle would jump three feet.
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I did. Traded off my 444 and my Marlin 44 mag to a local gun shop, but made me so sick and upset, went and got them back. Sacrificed a couple of pistols to do it, but felt so right to have those two Marlins back, I have no regrets at all. Haven't missed the pistols, at all. Yup, sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone, as they say.
That's how I became an accumulator. I couple of different times I traded off a gun that I hadn't even handled in a couple of years... Trader's remorse would set in and all I could think about was that old rifle or pistol that I traded.

Now that my son is married and somewhat settled down, he and I have done some gun trading. He is going to inherit them all one day anyway so I have started to pass some of them on to him when we get together. We have a rule that guns that we trade or give to each other can't be traded or sold without the other's permission. He is as bad as I am though, he'll keep them all.
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Thanx fer the link tgr! Think I was right about the 3.5 slugs. Yep KS better hang on with those loads she'll buck a bit!
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:33 PM   #146
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Here is my newest bear gun, A Smith and Wesson 500 Magnum Revolver 4" barrel Big Rock Edition. S&W says it will stop any animal walking on earth and after shooting it I believe so.
I shot it for the first time Sunday night with Hornady 300 grain Custom ammo, it was a blast (pun not intended, but funny anyway).
The gun is set up with specialized Hogue grips, muzzle brake, etc. to help reduce recoil, needless to say it is a handful, but not as much as I expected. I shot about 10 rounds, 1 single handed. It is not a handgun for the beginner or the faint of heart, however I have shot a 44 Mag with a longer barrel (I can't remember the maker though) that kicked harder.
S&W did a great job designing this gun and I really do plan on bear hunting with it.
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I once traded my No 5 Jungle Carbine for my first Henry. Then I felt naked without the JC because I had owned it since I was 16. At least the guy let me buy it back and I kept the Henry. This was in the year 2000.
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I built this gun to carry hunting as a sidearm . The factory ammo is loaded for black powder guns at level #1 and level #2 or 44-40 HV [ high vel ] ammo the factory made for 92 Winc and not for Colt pistols or 1873 Winc rifle . Level #3 meet or excess the 44 mag and can be shot in only modern guns like Super BlackHawk or new 92 actions .

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I built this gun to carry hunting as a sidearm . The factory ammo is loaded for black powder guns at level #1 and level #2 or 44-40 HV [ high vel ] ammo the factory made for 92 Winc and not for Colt pistols or 1873 Winc rifle . Level #3 meet or excess the 44 mag and can be shot in only modern guns like Super BlackHawk or new 92 actions .


That's a beautiful pistol.
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50-110 when you have to absolutely and positively kill something dead.
5400 ft lb at the muzzle. 22 FPS at your shoulder.
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That would be a serious thumper by any standards. Nice looking, too.
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That would be a serious thumper by any standards. Nice looking, too.
+1 .............. not a mouser gun for sure
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My late father hunted with a Rugar .44 Magnum rifle. I am looking for, but am in no hurry to purchase. I want a Big game rifle that will take down Big Game 400 – 1000 plus pound animals. I am thinking a 45/70 but I want a Brush – Gun, and Lever Action as well as it has to be built very well, solid, very reliable – with an iron peep –sight, that’s for the type of Terrain I hunt in. There is one on the market, a Pedersoli and Cabela’s give it a five star rating, at a price of 1, 699.99 - but it is twice to three times the coast of most Lever actions and it has a terrible reliability record with many chamber loading failures – Hanging up on the levering. Which basically turns it into a desperate War –Club. Its puts the hunter into a very bad situation when a very needed bullet jams up.

-I have considered a .444 / I’m considering a .300 magnum as well, but not sure what actions are available in .300 magnum. Caliber Rifle. The .300 Win Mag. Is a parent case – 375 H&H – Bullet diameter is a 308 in (7.8 mm) case length at 2.62 in. (67mm) with a max pressure at: 64,000. But it has to take down up to 1000 – 1200 pound very pissed -off Game Animal. But that there Bear Gun is fine and sweet.
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