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This is a discussion on Rifle Stock Busted within the Lever Action Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Forum category; Originally Posted by north country gal My biggest problem with a repair job, no matter how good, would be trusting it. I'd always be nervous ...
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Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Escondido, CA Posts: 36 | Quote:
Yes, I'll be nervous for sure. I could spend the money for new stocks, but I've recently joined the Social Security fixed income glass of gent and am quickly seeing that I can't casually throw money around as if it grew on trees....... like I did for the previous 66 years of my life. ![]() Thanks. PS From my research I'm believing that there is no such thing as, "...stronger than the original..." when it comes to wood repair adhesives. The adhesive may be stronger but the adjacent wood is no stronger than it was originally and will be just as prone to break as it always was. Last edited by Pallidin; 03-19-2014 at 02:22 PM. | |
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Super Moderator Joined: Dec 2012 From: Harrisburg, North Carolina Posts: 4,278 |
I would also check around where you live for a cabinet maker. Some of them are very good woodworkers. If you can find someone who lists themselves as a furniture maker that would be even better.
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Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Escondido, CA Posts: 36 | Quote:
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Kansas Posts: 519 |
Sorry Pallidin, I didn't read far enough into it. I didn't see the part where they don't recommend their stock for replicas. The furniture repair / cabinet maker sounds like a good lead though.good luck! |
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Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Escondido, CA Posts: 36 | No problem. Glad to hear about the Web site. I often encounter Web sites that advertise products they don't actually carry and have little or no intention of obtaining them. 4 weeks ago I ordered an item from tooldiscounters.com. They had the best price by a few bucks. Never occurred to me it wouldn't be in stock. They still don't have it. They've enjoyed my money all this time. Many businesses survive this way and have no one to answer too in the long run. So, shame on me for always going for the low bid, so to speak.
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Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Escondido, CA Posts: 36 | Broke Stock Mountain Update
Well, Cimarron's gunsmith encouraged me to contact one of the VP's to see if they would, "....do something for you.". Happy to say the fella I talked to at least offered to sell me a stock at dealer's cost which is about 35% less than their normal retail price. So, while waiting for the new stock I decided to take a crack, ha ha ha, at fixing the broken stock. The break was perfectly clean and the two pieces mated together with no gaps showing anywhere. So then at some point I fumbled the biggest piece and it hit the garage floor right on the sharp edge of the break and ruined any chance of getting a seamless joint. To make matters even worse I needed to expand the holes I drilled for the pins in order for the pins and two stock pieces to line up. The first three holes went fine. But on the last hole I got in a rush and forced the drill bit too hard and ended up breaking 3 or 4 small pieces off the stock. That really buggered any chance for a seamless job. After using Elmer's Wood glue to put those pieces back together, and Loctite epoxy on the 3" threaded brass bolts I used for pins, I used duct tape to cinch it all together and waited overnight for it to dry. It's not bad actually.....until you closely inspect it, then it's obvious there is a seam. Hard to say how strong it is compared to the original.......well, compared to an original stock that has the grain running the right direction. It was an interesting project and something very doable if you don't get in a hurry and not butter-fingered. VR I'll try to get some close-up macro shots of the joint for your viewing entertainment. Last edited by Pallidin; 03-28-2014 at 11:37 AM. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2014 From: Texas Panhandle. Posts: 3,846 |
I'm glad to hear that they are helping you out. Plus, now you have some experience at stock repair.
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Senior Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: Wa. Posts: 161 |
Another thing, you are NOT going to get a good piece of wood for 75 or 80 bucks. If you choose to make or have made a new stock, you want to inspect the wood before you buy IN PERSON. That piece of wood you have is typical of a lot of junk they sell these days. A glue job will get it back in one piece but it very likely will break again near the present break. Putting a through bolt in the stock is probably the best fix you can use there. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: Washington State Posts: 16,373 | Quote:
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Your exactly right pallidin, without dowels or pins or jb it will just crack again 1/8 or so from the glue. Bad situation all the way around sounds like. I think tgr idea with the jb product is best that way you won't have to line up dowel holes exactly....but I'm just an old dumb carpenter....good luck... I feel your pain!
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Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Escondido, CA Posts: 36 |
Hey, I see you are in Colorado. I lived in Boulder for 23 years before moving to California. My mother, 90, is still there.
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Yep I'm closer to cheyenne than most co towns
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Senior Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: Wa. Posts: 161 | Quote:
I can just about guarantee if that stock was fixed with one it would never break again. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
We call boulder 35 square miles surrounded by reality. The way our votings gone lately that area might b a bit bigger!
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Pete r u thinkin of takein off the butt plate and drilling all the way through the length of the stock?
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Senior Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: Wa. Posts: 161 | Quote:
If that stock was doweled and glued then through bolted it would probably last forever. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
I agree! More sound than original with the steel bolt the length of the stock
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Junior Member Joined: May 2015 From: Western Oklahoma Posts: 1 | stock repair
I realize this is an old thread and I'm new here, but my suggestion if Cimarron wasn't going to cut you a deal on a new stock, would be to glue it best as you can and find a reputable stock duplicator and send it to him for pattern. There are many who do this sort of work and they know wood. The guy doing the duplication may want to do the 'gluing' of the pattern, himself. Sounds like a tough deal from Cimarron to me, but that's how I'd fix it. Good stock duplicators understand grain flow and how to lay out stock. The stock duplication usually runs from $100-$150. The wood, the sky is the limit, but a solid Black Walnut blank for a two piece should be in the neighborhood of $150 , more or less. Fitting and finishing, can you do the work yourself?
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