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Old 03-27-2014, 06:48 PM   #21
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+1 I can't believe you are thinking of Drilling and tapping that gun for a scope you will ruin that gun forever . There is no good reason to scope it and make a $125 gun out of it . A Winchester collector would love to have that gun just the way it is unrestored .
Well you all
Thank you for the concern.
The rifle is old, found the stamp on the barrel 1929 not 1928 like the serial says.
Way back this shooter must have seen a lot of woods so maybe they only wanted
a 5 shot tube we will never know.
Some one all ready tapped the left side of the receiver for just that, a scope, I'm sure.
I will match up one of my side scope mounts tomorrow.
Some one already cut the tube short.
Some one made a new extractor.
So this is how it is.
My heart bleeds for you all, with respect.
But when the SHTF and it's not far away, I want a working rifle not one
that sit''s on a gun rack to pay homage too.
Sorry to be to the point and disappointing.
I just finished cutting the barrel in the lathe and crowned it.
Sorry voting is over.
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Old 03-27-2014, 06:53 PM   #22
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Just a though

If some gun smith back in the 30's had this gun, shortened the barrel and tube and put side mount scope on it and it looked great.
WOULD YOU BUY IT .lol
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:08 PM   #23
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Here is my story

Cant help it.
I'm a restorer of every thing.
I never buy new.
I love working creating.
No TV BOOB TUBE never had one, no radio, no news paper.
Computer tech since 1986 I just need the net and my books and tools.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:21 PM   #24
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When it comes down to it yours is the only vote that counts. I know some of the people here wonder what in the heck I've done to some of my firearms.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:42 PM   #25
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If all goes wrong

ONE OF MY BACK UP'S
Imagine this was a Russian relic with a wood stock. OMG
look what I did.

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Old 03-27-2014, 07:49 PM   #26
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I say do whatever you want to your guns. If someone doesn't like it they can buy their own, and do to them what they want.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:51 PM   #27
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Thank you

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I say do whatever you want to your guns. If someone doesn't like it they can buy their own, and do to them what they want.
Thank you much appreciated
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:09 PM   #28
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Last one for the night

Lets see if I can stir up some activity.
Cooey 22 LR stock.
Marlin 22 LR receiver and bolt.
Bolt convert to center fire.from rim fire.
308 barrel
Barrel reamed for a 300 Whisper / 300 AAC black out..
223 cases trimmed down and re-sized .
What did I do???
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:28 AM   #29
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Well you all
Thank you for the concern.
The rifle is old, found the stamp on the barrel 1929 not 1928 like the serial says.
Way back this shooter must have seen a lot of woods so maybe they only wanted
a 5 shot tube we will never know.
Some one all ready tapped the left side of the receiver for just that, a scope, I'm sure.
I will match up one of my side scope mounts tomorrow.
Some one already cut the tube short.
Some one made a new extractor.
So this is how it is.
My heart bleeds for you all, with respect.
But when the SHTF and it's not far away, I want a working rifle not one
that sit''s on a gun rack to pay homage too.
Sorry to be to the point and disappointing.
I just finished cutting the barrel in the lathe and crowned it.
Sorry voting is over.
I didn't know the gun was was already drilled and tapped for a scope which is a game changer . The rifle has zero collector value so anything you do to it will improve it value as a shooter . I agree on cut the barrel it will make a great saddle gun . They call me gun runner because I dealt in seller guns . Not anymore since I retired in 1993 . I see so many guns taken from a $5000 gun to a $200 someone refinishing it or drills hole in it . I shoot all my guns , I don't believe in safe queens .
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I didn't know the gun was was already drilled and tapped for a scope which is a game changer . The rifle has zero collector value so anything you do to it will improve it value as a shooter . I agree on cut the barrel it will make a great saddle gun . They call me gun runner because I dealt in seller guns . Not anymore since I retired in 1993 . I see so many guns taken from a $5000 gun to a $200 someone refinishing it or drills hole in it . I shoot all my guns , I don't believe in safe queens .
You are right on all accounts. I can not afford to be a collector or do I want to be.
Bought it because it is old and material was excellent back then.
When I turned the barrel in the lathe and watch the steel cut, great steel in them old guns.
The steel these days is crap recycled junk. Turn like cheese then you hit a hard spot. YUK
I like using what I have what ever it is.
People say they just built a house. Lying fools.
They did not build it 5 or 6 contractor with the main contractor built it hahaha what a joke.
They just had the money.
Not tooting my own horn, but just so you know where I'm coming from..
If you look at my house in the snow I built the whole thing. concrete slab, wiring, heating everything., and I mean everything myself.. Installed Wind turbine on roof, 16 solar panels, 16 deep cell batteries. If the power went out the other day in the blizzard I could still function with everything, not all at once mind you, but could manage.
I tried last night to turn the barrel out in my jig with lube in the threads. NO GO and I do not want to mar the barrel.
Will have to modify the jig today.
Any suggestion humbly accepted I never worked on one of these rifle's till the past week.
After I make the new jig may put a little heat to it.
Cheers
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I didn't know the gun was was already drilled and tapped for a scope which is a game changer . The rifle has zero collector value so anything you do to it will improve it value as a shooter . I agree on cut the barrel it will make a great saddle gun . They call me gun runner because I dealt in seller guns . Not anymore since I retired in 1993 . I see so many guns taken from a $5000 gun to a $200 someone refinishing it or drills hole in it . I shoot all my guns , I don't believe in safe queens .
My other 94 pre 64 which I bough in Feb same deal. Someone put a sight on it at one time.
Came with no rear sight, NO SCOPE, but the mounts are there. BUT the rifle shoots great.
But I NOW have the steel and a great shooting rifle. so I put iron sights back on and could
Tig the mount holes if I want to get it back to close to original but probably wont.
Again another cheap rifle for me good material and good shooter.

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I'm glad to see your not destroying collector guns . I'm not that smart and would never try to build my house . I buy them and only live in them 5 yrs to get tax breaks and sell them . I build all my match guns , tools and bullet molds too . Here is a few I built and like you I do 100% of the work NO SUBLETS .







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I'm glad to see your not destroying collector guns . I'm not that smart and would never try to build my house . I buy them and only live in them 5 yrs to get tax breaks and sell them . I build all my match guns , tools and bullet molds too . Here is a few I built and like you I do 100% of the work NO SUBLETS .







WOW
I'm impressed would love to meet up with.
I love your work thank you for sharing.
You don't have to be smart to build a house just poor with lots of tool's
I'm in debt up to my ears put the guns on credit cards, keep living my life, and let my small pension cover me for the month.
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Both of these guns were Remy XP100 in 221 fireball pistol originally that I did 100% of the work .




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Nice work thank you

I a fan of the .221, 222, 223,
Personal I like the 222 over all.
Less powder to reload and just as good.
I built a 300 whisper as in my pictures.
I use 223 brass cut it with my band saw and a few jigs I set up to get the case right.
LAST WEEK I PULLED ALL MY VIDEOS ON GUNS OF OF YOU TUBE.
Otherwise I would send you the link.
I'm really a novice compared to you but love doing all this stuff.
My life changed when JFK shot.
I was working on wall street at the time in the NYSE.
A few years later I quit put all my 3 piece suits in a church box for the poor,
and became a union carpenter in NYC.
Then moved to Canada in 1974 and get away from all the city crap.
Grow my own food and survive.
JFK from all my research was shot with a REM XP100 221 fireball special round bullet to blow his head out. Which it did and it came from the grate in the water drain sewer curb drain.
These where Cooey Winchester 22 LR barrels going to the dump when Canada decided to do a long rifle registration.
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Here in the USA you can make a rifle out of a pistol but you can't take a rifle make it into a pistol . I the regs are different in Canada . A buddy has a 308 using a 221 Fireball brass in TC contender I thing he called it a 300 Whisper too , I guess that the same as yours . It was super accurate round .
I don't have a green thumb . I try a garden a couple time in my life and the weeds didn't grow in there either for 2 years . I planted 2 cherry tomato plants and Duke watered it 4 time a day free .
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Here in the USA you can make a rifle out of a pistol but you can't take a rifle make it into a pistol . I the regs are different in Canada . A buddy has a 308 using a 221 Fireball brass in TC contender I thing he called it a 300 Whisper too , I guess that the same as yours . It was super accurate round .
I don't have a green thumb . I try a garden a couple time in my life and the weeds didn't grow in there either for 2 years . I planted 2 cherry tomato plants and Duke watered it 4 time a day free .
By the way
I'm honorable discharge from the US Army
Member of the NRA
Stand up for the first and second amendment.
The rules are the same in Canada these where experimental pistols and not for manufacture, and broken down now. Rules here are worse here, I can not protect myself even if there is break in and my life is in danger with any kidnd of fire arm
Best I could use is my wrecking bar. Or grandmas stuff. LOL
All hand guns in Canada Have to be registered and barrel no Less the 4 1/8 inch
i HAVE 300 tomato plants and 200 hot pepper plant in my bed room and back room,
waiting or the weather to break so they can go in the green house.
Vegetarian 45 year After that JFK deal I changed my life totally.
Became a vegan, studied yoga, meditation, karate.
I grow all my own food organically, store for a year or more worth of food.
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Good luck with your Winchester! Finding an old Winchester that has had mods already done to it is about the only way to get one at a reasonable price, anymore.
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Good luck with your Winchester! Finding an old Winchester that has had mods already done to it is about the only way to get one at a reasonable price, anymore.
Yes I know and to even find one of those odified ones is getting scarce.
Been looking for a long time.
I now have a 1976 great shape.
1956 great shape good shooter but some one put scope rails on barrel.
No big deal.
1928 that I'm working on.
I'm willing to pay for one as long as it shoots and the mechanics are good.
The rest is a fun game of bring it to my standard of what I like to shot.
What are they going for in your neck of the woods.
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WOOW ............ 221 videos . I think I gain 5 lbs watching them and now I know more about you then my ex-wife . I love your dogs and how well they are trained . I trained my dog to be a guard dog and have no fear of anything or anyone . I love your wood elevator I can see that save you a lot of time and work . Love your computer you built I have trouble turning mind on and off .

The firearm laws and cold weather there in Canada would keep me from ever moving there . I'm a desert rat and love the heat and the 350 days of motorcycle riding here in part of Tx .
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