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This is a discussion on Charcoal Bluing within the Lever Action Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Forum category; Hey All, Nothing earth-shaking here but thought I'd ramble on about my experience with charcoal bluing. About 8-10 years ago, when I retired, I started ...


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Old 05-23-2016, 04:28 PM   #1
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Charcoal Bluing

Hey All,

Nothing earth-shaking here but thought I'd ramble on about my experience with charcoal bluing. About 8-10 years ago, when I retired, I started collecting guns, mostly Winchesters and World War II era rifles. One of the very first lever actions I obtained, probably the first, was a Uberti 1873 in 45 Colt. Of course it is not an original, it's a replica. Why a replica? Because I was shocked in the beginning by the cost to buy an original 1873 Winchester in good shootable condition......several thousand and up. So, when I stumbled across the Uberti's for a grand give or take, like new, great looking, better looking than Winchesters ever were.... I couldn't get over how much rifle you could buy for a grand compared to an old burned out Winchester. The first one I fell for was an 1873 in charcoql blue......wow, love at first sight. I ignored the caution about the, "delicate" nature of charcoal bluing and bought my first lever on Gunbroker.com. I was thrilled when I received it, it was gorgeous, eye popping brilliant blue, wow. But, after just a few trips to the range I noticed a spot about one inch long on one of the octogonal barrel flats next to the rear sight starting to fade......sheesh. Then other blotchy spots appeared. Well, long story short as they say....I finally got fed up with this fake Winchester with it's phony fading finish and decided to cover the finish with DuraCoat. Well, after receiving the DuraCoat in the mail, sitting on the shelf for several months, I cleaned the rifle with the degreaser, and scrubbed with the provided scrub pad and then....I was shocked to see what a great looking gun I had after the charcoal blue was gone......it scrubbed completely off or nearly so with very little effort.....delicate......sure is. What I was left with is a gray gun metal finish with a slight blue hue/tinge that looks very good to me. I am thinking I should leave it this way and not spray the blue/black DuraCoat over it. I'm concerned about rust but have read several comments about CLP applied ever few months keeping it clear of rust. I have a small tube of Dyna-Tek Gun Shield that I could apply. I can't find any convincing reviews about it. Just one that says it's great and one that says is crap on Amazon.com. Anyway, I'll add some pictures later if I can remember to do it. Any comments about Charcoal Bluing, Dyna-Tak Gun Shield or related thoughts will be appreciated.

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Old 05-24-2016, 12:37 PM   #2
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Paste wax will keep it nice, I like Johnson's. You can do the wood and the metal.
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Welcome back Pallidin, haven't seen you for a while.
I know absolutely nothing about bluing. So I will be learning on this thread.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:32 AM   #4
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Paste wax will keep it nice, I like Johnson's. You can do the wood and the metal.


I've seen a couple comments on other forums about paste wax being the ticket to keeping rust away. I think I'll proceed with the Dyna-Tek Gun shield coating I have on hand but also keep a coat of Johnson's paste wax or CLP over it as well. Dyna-Shield claims you can continue to use CLP and/or your favorite coating over it if habit compels you to do so. I must say to their credit that I have used their coating on one of my case-colored Ruger Vaquero's which constantly got patches of rust on it every several weeks. Since coating it with Dyna-shield about one year ago I have had no rust problems.

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Here are some pictures of the charcoal blue and after charcoal blue was scrubbed off.....if I can figure out how to post pictures.
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I would leave it alone. As for rust it would be a concern for me in the Seattle area but not when I'm in Ephrata. A lot has to do with the relativity of where you live.
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I would leave it alone. As for rust it would be a concern for me in the Seattle area but not when I'm in Ephrata. A lot has to do with the relativity of where you live.

'Relativity'? Well, as they say, "everything is relative". Maybe you meant to say, "humidity"?

In any case, too late to leave it alone. The charcoal bluing is 99% gone, the Dyna-Tek Gun Shield coating is on and that's covered with Safari Charlie CLP. I also put the rifle inside a silicone riflesock and it's inside of a padded case. I typically like to gaze upon and fondle my gun collection on a regular basis so hopefully any rust that might appear won't get a strong foothold before I can deal with it.

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'Relativity'? Well, as they say, "everything is relative". Maybe you meant to say, "humidity"?

In any case, too late to leave it alone. The charcoal bluing is 99% gone, the Dyna-Tek Gun Shield coating is on and that's covered with Safari Charlie CLP. I also put the rifle inside a silicone riflesock and it's inside of a padded case. I typically like to gaze upon and fondle my gun collection on a regular basis so hopefully any rust that might appear won't get a strong foothold before I can deal with it.
I meant after you stripped it. I thought you were thinking of re-bluing.
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