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Old 10-24-2016, 09:00 AM   #1
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Practicing DA shooting with a DA revolver

Hope I'm not overdoing it on the shooting posts, but here's one that might prove helpful to some of you.

As many, here, know, my choice of a carry gun is a DA revolver, so, naturally, I take shooting in DA mode very seriously. After all, what's the point of packing a DA revolver if you aren't proficient shooting in double action mode? And, make no mistake, it does take practice. It's much different than shooting in single action. For sure, if you plan to use a DA revolver for self-defense, you better darn sure know what you can and what you can't do when shooting in DA. Your life may depend on it.

One of the issues about practicing, of course, is ammo cost. Shooting in DA, I can breeze through a box of 50 in just about any chambering in our DA revolvers in no time at all, including the 44 mag in the Redhawk. The way I solve this is, not surprisingly, is by practicing with a DA revolver in 22 LR. Oh, sure, you still need to practice with your dedicated DA carry revolver in whatever chambering, but the basics can be learned with the 22 LR.

That's the good news. The bad news is that a lot of 22 LR DA revolvers come, out of the box, with heavy DA pulls for the sake of harder ignition issues with 22 LR ammo. From experience, I can tell you that doing the old lighter spring trick to drop the DA pull on 22 LRs is a risky proposition. Light hits with rimfire ammo does not make for reliable functioning.

Happy to report, though, that there are 22 DA revolvers out there with great DA pulls, right out of the box. Might take a little cherry picking to find one, but they are out there. We have two such guns. One is a current production 10 shot S&W 617, which I'll write about another time. The other is the little Ruger SP101 22 LR we just recently found. No, not the current 8 shot version, but the original SP 6 shot version. This one has a production date of 1991.




The little SP 22 LR is all the more useful for me because I use SPs in 38 Special and 357 as carry guns. Another plus for this little gun is that it loves shooting the cheap bulk stuff, such as federal Automatch. With its outstanding trigger, both in SA and DA, the little SP 6 shot is a real treasure. Added a Hogue grip for better control and, yes, grip design helps with accuracy when shooting in DA.


Practice does pay and, with a 22 LR, shooting in DA is loads of fun, too. Hope you can find a nice DA 22 LR revolver and join me.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:18 PM   #2
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"Overdoing it?"

It's what I come here for. Can't get enough.

I love DA revolvers and DA shooting. To me it is the ultimate shooting, though as you said it calls for a smooth action. If I am in shape I don't need light and never lighten the main or hammer spring, but I do want smooth and even with no stacking or catching. The S&W K frame is the ultimate for me and Hogue grips work the best for my hands. I have not really shot much rimfire as I used to be able to load .38 Spec. for five cents a round, buying the bullets. It just did not pay, especially as the trigger pull tended to be better on centerfires, as you said.

Shooting slow DA I could out shoot my friends at 25 yards firing SA. I actually think I can track moving targets or while I am moving, better with DA as it coordinates better. I found this even with the Kahr auto compared to my Sig 239 which is DA/SA. Some of this may be more work with the Kahr but I always found this true with the revolvers.

More please!!
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Working on DA revolvers was what got me into machining, which became my career and obsession.
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Didn't know that, Mac. Funny how our interests sometimes lead to a profession. You just never know.

You may be on to something about DA shooting and moving targets, given the fluidity of working a DA trigger pull. May have to give it a try if I can figure out a way to setup moving targets.
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I love the DA of the S&W "J" , "K" and "L" because you can get a great DA without lighting the hammer spring to keep the gun ignition 100% reliable .. I don't like any DA/SA bottom feeders because the 2 different triggers . I own both Kahr and Glocks and both have a super DA triggers . All my Glock's for $ 20 each have the same 3.5 lbs in them . My Kahr's are all at a smooth 5.5 lbs , but they are single stack guns were my Glock's are high cap double stack .

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if I can figure out a way to setup moving targets.
Maybe you could tie antlers or bunny ears onto Bill? Nah, I forgot, you have to SHOOT the targets.......... Maybe targets in a Radio Flyer wagon he'd pull with a long rope.........
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Back in the later 1970s when I was first learning to shoot DA I had permission to shoot on a man's land (600 acres) with a canal bank as a backstop. There was a section of old barbed wire fence with just the top wire there. I used to hang one gallon plastic jugs on a piece of wire from that top wire so they would swing and jump when hit. It was quite challenging to keep it moving as it bounced and swung. Always missed that setup later at the range but I learned a lot about DA shooting. That was with a Ruger Speed Six with 4" barrel in .357 Magnum, a 200th year edition. My first revolver.
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The trigger was decent but once I learned to smooth up S&Ws I never found anything as good. I never cared as much for the J frame. The parts just seemed too small for proper leverage. They certainly shot well but they never compared to the K or N frames for me. They do carry very nicely, though.
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That SP101 was a great find NCG. I shot that pistol(newer model) to take my CCW test & loved it & have shot the .357/38 model several times. Very enjoyable!

Please keep the posts coming as I am about ready to return to the range after my wrist surgery, but need another day or 2.

I hear my CZ 75 crying for me.
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Moakes, I think I speak for all of us when I say best wishes for a speedy recovery and hope you get to the range, soon.

By the way, our local shop has the tactical version of the 75 with the rail, but I don't think it has the Omega trigger. Very interesting gun, though. Appears to be built like a tank. Impressive.
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Moakes, I think I speak for all of us when I say best wishes for a speedy recovery and hope you get to the range, soon.

By the way, our local shop has the tactical version of the 75 with the rail, but I don't think it has the Omega trigger. Very interesting gun, though. Appears to be built like a tank. Impressive.
Is that the SP-01 shown here?
https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41016
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The one I was looking at was not threaded at the muzzle, but otherwise that's it. It's their number 91153, the SP-01 Tactical
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I was wondering why those sights were so tall. Then I realized it was setup for a can.
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