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Old 12-02-2016, 02:10 PM   #1
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She's back! Target 1911s

Hope this isn't too far off the beaten path for you folks, but you did ask where I was and here's a sample. These two are recently acquired 1911s I bought, specifically, for their adjustable sights so that I could dial them in exactly where I wanted them for 50 yard work. Most fixed sight 1911s end up being way high or low by the time you move them out for 50 yard work.


Both Sigs, of course. Top gun is one of their traditional series guns with a standard shaped 1911 slide. It's the Sig Match Elite in 9mm. Bottom gun is very Sig in it's 1911 style. It's the Sig Super Target in 45 auto.

First, the Match Elite.


Accuracy check at mid-range, to start.


Then on out to 50 yards for regular work



Second, the Sig Super Target


Again, accuracy check half way


Then on out to 50 yards for regular work



By the way, I've now owned 8 Sigs, including the little P938. It might be hard for some to believe, but I can honestly report that after shooting a couple thousand rounds, combined, with all 8 of these guns, I've never had one jam or hiccup in any way - not once as in zilch, nada, zero. 8 different guns, perfect, 100% reliability. Haven't tuned them, either. Just taken them out of the case and shot them. As for accuracy, have never been disappointed in a singe one. Yes, Sigs are pricey, but that's why I shoot them. It's also why I now carry them as my self-defense guns.

More on the carry guns, later.

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Old 12-02-2016, 06:40 PM   #2
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She's back!.................We didn't mean you had to go back to work, just give us a word or two.

Ruger just released the Target SR1911, I got the email today. No match for your Sigs, though. Nice shooting, as usual....
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Old 12-02-2016, 06:54 PM   #3
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Thanks, BC. If this is work, bring it on! Not sure why these 1911s get to me the way they do. Maybe I was a Bonnie Parker type in another life. In fact, because music of the 1920s and 30s is so special to me, I really do wonder about having lived, then. Kind of a de jevu ting.

I saw that about the Ruger. I do like the SR1911, by the way. It's another one of those great buys in a 1911. if I found one at a good price, would have no problems adding it to the collection. Very easy shooting 1911.

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Great report. I like and trust Sigs, but I only have the single stack P-239. The DA/SA is excellent and my small hands have full control in DA mode. The one I have is .40 S&W but I used to have a 9 mm. I love the obvious quality and the reliability. If I wanted a 1911 for carry I expect the Sig would make me very happy. I had a P-220 Elite in .45 but even in single stack the DA pull was a bit to much reach so I traded it off on a Beretta 92. .

With Lasergrips. It is thinner and smaller with the standard grips.

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Thanks, Mac. I have the very 1911ish P938 in 9mm that I now carry as a purse gun or an IWB gun on the rare occasions when I do carry. Pretty amazing gun. Should do a separate post on it. Basically, doubles my effective accuracy range over a J frame Smith. Takes me well past normal self-defense ranges for shootability and gets me a 7+1 capacity, to boot. Very atypical for a 15 ounce gun.
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....... because music of the 1920s and 30s is so special to me, I really do wonder about having lived, then. Kind of a deja vu thing.
I've often thought I should have been a banjo player in the Thirties. I even tried tenor banjo a few years back. I was no match for Harry Reser, though......

The Red Hot Jazz Archive has thousands of full length recordings, and brief histories of different musicians and bands. They say "before 1930" but some is into the Thirties. Not all jazz, either.

I don't think I've given a link for this, but should have once I knew you liked "the best music ever"!

Links across the bottom of their home page get you started. You can look for a particular band, musician, or song. They list every song someone did, but only have the ones in yellow. It's gradually getting more complete.

http://www.redhotjazz.com/index.htm
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I new it was you just by the subject line. That is remarkable shooting. The 1911 is one of my favorites too. I enjoy big band sound and jazz from the last century on my tube radios.
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I new it was you just by the subject line. That is remarkable shooting. The 1911 is one of my favorites too. I enjoy big band sound and jazz from the last century on my tube radios.
Tube radios seem to give everything a "warm" sound. My grandmother had one I replaced some tubes in so I could listen to a big band show that NPR had on Saturday evenings.

When companies started transferring 78s onto CDs, they found that the old records had better sound than the old phonographs could play. Digitized and cleaned up, the 20s stuff sounds amazing compared to playing records on an old Victrola.
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Thanks for the great link, BC. One of the things I love about music in that era is that so many musicians played so many types of music and no one got hung up on labels the way they do, today. As a musician, myself, I get so tired of self-appointed experts deciding what is "real" blues, or "real" jazz and on and on and on.

Speaking of tubes, as a pro harmonica player, I can tell you that no pro would be caught dead playing on anything but a tube amplifier. Still very much in demand and still being made. A lot of digital amps now have computer programs built in to try to duplicate some of the classic tube amp sounds, but no way. That warm tube sound can only come from tubes.

Yeah, I happen to know some 33rpm collectors who have built their own turntables and the works. One of them won't even allow CDs in the house.

Thanks, as always, 303. Wasn't sure how much of this non-Henry stuff you'd want over on the Henry forum, so posted it, here, where I know it belongs. Let me know what you're comfortable with over there, but will continue to do my usual, here.
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Tube radios seem to give everything a "warm" sound. My grandmother had one I replaced some tubes in so I could listen to a big band show that NPR had on Saturday evenings.

When companies started transferring 78s onto CDs, they found that the old records had better sound than the old phonographs could play. Digitized and cleaned up, the 20s stuff sounds amazing compared to playing records on an old Victrola.
I spent a lot of hours in front of my folks old Philco radio, my son now has it. I also have a mid 60s Fender Champ Amp in my music room, love the sound.
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Those old Champs are a much sought harmonica amp. If you ever decide to sell it ...
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Thanks for the great link, BC. One of the things I love about music in that era is that so many musicians played so many types of music and no one got hung up on labels the way they do, today.

Yeah, I happen to know some 33rpm collectors who have built their own turntables and the works. One of them won't even allow CDs in the house.
How do you label computer generated 'music' that only requires pushing a button? Few talented musicians these days, playing actual instruments. Especially acoustic ones.

It's a shame about those collectors. So much of the older music is impossible, or nearly so, to get on records. With CDs, I even have the very first jazz recordings by The Original Dixieland Jazz Band in 1917. Their complete library set me back all of $ 12.
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Thanks for the great link, BC. One of the things I love about music in that era is that so many musicians played so many types of music and no one got hung up on labels the way they do, today. As a musician, myself, I get so tired of self-appointed experts deciding what is "real" blues, or "real" jazz and on and on and on.

Speaking of tubes, as a pro harmonica player, I can tell you that no pro would be caught dead playing on anything but a tube amplifier. Still very much in demand and still being made. A lot of digital amps now have computer programs built in to try to duplicate some of the classic tube amp sounds, but no way. That warm tube sound can only come from tubes.

Yeah, I happen to know some 33rpm collectors who have built their own turntables and the works. One of them won't even allow CDs in the house.

Thanks, as always, 303. Wasn't sure how much of this non-Henry stuff you'd want over on the Henry forum, so posted it, here, where I know it belongs. Let me know what you're comfortable with over there, but will continue to do my usual, here.
If it's G-rated and non-political we want it. And any range report is welcome. TGR even posted about his sling shots.
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I actually collect electronic space music, dating back to the days when it was first generated on the early synthesizers. It's like any other instrument. It's up to the artist to get the most creativity out of it.

As far as going digital, ZZ Top was actually one of the first groups to explore it. Again, it's how it is used that counts.

As a musician who has spent time in the recording studio, digital is the norm for some tracks. Hate using some of it, especially canned drum tracks, but time is money when recording.

And then there is the current playing scene. A lot of bands are using pre-recorded tracks or digital instruments to replace some instruments and musicians for the sake of making what little money there is when playing on local circuits and also for the sake of trying to squeeze in when playing in small venues. Some gigs actually insist on no more than one or two musicians.

Do I like playing with pre-recorded instruments or computer generated tacks? Yuk! Not if I can help it. I am a consummate jam musician and no way can you jam in those setups. Will I use it if it's the only way to get a gig? For sure. For instance, I often do solo gigs playing music off my computer and running it though the amp while playing harmonica to it. I'm good enough to play along with all the greats, including Django, Benny and in a wide variety of genres. Up here in the sticks, it's actually my only option to play jazz and some real offbeat stuff in public, because finding a true jazz musician and so on in these parts is a lost cause.
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Those old Champs are a much sought harmonica amp. If you ever decide to sell it ...
Those little Champs sounded bigger. Nothing but a volume knob and two jacks. I had an early tweed one with my first guitar, a Harmony Bobkat like this one:



Now I play ukes, this is one like my best, I've got five.....


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NCG, very nice report. As always, your target work is 1st. rate. We are big fans of Sig also & I have had my eye on the 938.

I have a feeling that gun prices are going to drop & I'm in no hurry.
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Love the guitar and Uke, BC. Ukes are the hot thing to play, these days. Have a couple friends who have decided to try one.

Moakes, thank-you, as always. Glad you enjoyed the post. As to prices on guns, anyone's guess, but I wouldn't count on prices coming down anytime soon. Black Friday actually set a record for Fed background checks. My local shop reports no slow down on sales because Hillary lost. Says he's busier than ever. Go figure.
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Karen Carpenter's music was all a product of Richard dubbing her voice over. She did 16 tracks of harmonizing with herself. Andy Williams was another but he only did two tracks.
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That, I did not know. Being the vocalist that you are, not surprised you would know, though. Very interesting. Loved her voice, by the way.
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I'll keep that in mind!
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