reloading 223

Ornery · 08-02-2011, 07:26 PM

need a little help, have a savage bolt rifle in 223 will acept factory but not my reloads. I have a check gauage and the rounds fit in there ok but not in the rifle. I am using small base dies RCBS, and yes I am triming themas well. Using the Lee system to trim the cases. I am wondering it there is a super small base dies that I need to get/ Any help will be great appreiated.

deputy125 · 08-02-2011, 08:10 PM

wish i could help but i'm a lee loader man when it comes to rifle rounds.....

off the top of my head, i would go the opposite route and when it comes to reloading for that particular rifle.

reload only the fired factory rounds that you have put thru that one rife..........then neck size only on those reloads and skip full length sizing all-together.

of course that might not help if you already have a bucket load of once fired 223 brass from other rifles.

txgunner should be along tomorrow and he can help.

Ornery · 08-02-2011, 11:43 PM

They work in my tc and handi rifle so all is good. I can use factory in the ar and bolt gun. But thanks for the help. I am good with what I have loaded now. Sorta like the tighter chambers on the ar and bolt gun now that I think of it. Besides I can get just about all the 223 ammo I need cheaper than i can load it. i have a source so to speak, well i do now lol.

tx gun runner · 08-03-2011, 02:55 AM

The shoulder could be too long ...... My 44-40 I had to grind .010 off the base of my full length die to make them fit all my Vaquero's . The other thing could be neck thickness or heavy crimp . Take 2 fired case and try them in gun , then full length size them , one with the decapper removed , then try them in gun again . Let me know what happen before we go to step 2 .

Ornery · 08-03-2011, 09:11 AM

I have taken care of the problem thank you for your help.

tx gun runner · 08-03-2011, 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=Ornery;149688]I have taken care of the problem thank you for your help.[/QUO

Ornery · 08-03-2011, 09:27 AM

made adjustment on the die.

beedee · 02-08-2016, 03:26 PM

need help and info. this second tie for this.have some range brass that measures 2.41 to 2.46 does not appear to have been trimed. head stamp lake city and fc. any ideals. thanlks

Terry_P · 02-09-2016, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beedee

need help and info. this second tie for this.have some range brass that measures 2.41 to 2.46 does not appear to have been trimed. head stamp lake city and fc. any ideals. thanlks

BD not sure what you are asking here?? You have brass that has a case length of 2.41-2.46 what is it you want to know.

tx gun runner · 02-09-2016, 06:26 AM

The same case length is very important to set all the crimps and tension the same and need to be trimmed to the same length . The length is not really that important but being the same is .

Dennis H · 02-09-2016, 07:58 AM

And welcome to the forum beedee!

moakes58 · 02-09-2016, 05:03 PM

.223 Remington brass is trimmed to 1.750"

If it's Lake City brass, it will probably have crimped primers & you will have to remove the crimp with a reamer before you can reprime it.

beedee · 02-10-2016, 02:45 PM

sorry I made a mess on my first post. I have some range brass that measure between 1.741 to 1.746. this brass seems to be fired 1 time shows no signs of having been trimmed. my manuals show to trim .223 to 1.750. is this stuff safe to use? are there maufacturs that have cases that are shorter then others. head stamps are fc and lc. this is the second time I have found brass lie this tossed out the first.

moakes58 · 02-10-2016, 06:47 PM

Did you read my post above? If not fired from your rifle, I would full length resize it & you need to check that it has crimped primers, because the primer pockets will have to be reamed. Use your shortest piece of brass to set your crimp die up.

tx gun runner · 02-10-2016, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beedee

sorry I made a mess on my first post. I have some range brass that measure between 1.741 to 1.746. this brass seems to be fired 1 time shows no signs of having been trimmed. my manuals show to trim .223 to 1.750. is this stuff safe to use? are there maufacturs that have cases that are shorter then others. head stamps are fc and lc. this is the second time I have found brass lie this tossed out the first.

Are you measuring the brass before or after sizing it . I measure and trim all brass after sizing them . The length will change after sizing .. I neck turn all brass before sizing if needed to keep tension on bullets the same .. .

If you are loading for a auto loader like AR15 I would tell you to get a small base resizer for 100% feed

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/205...-223-remington

08-02-2011, 07:26 PM	#1
Ornery Senior Member Joined: Aug 2011 From: Texas Posts: 217	reloading 223 need a little help, have a savage bolt rifle in 223 will acept factory but not my reloads. I have a check gauage and the rounds fit in there ok but not in the rifle. I am using small base dies RCBS, and yes I am triming themas well. Using the Lee system to trim the cases. I am wondering it there is a super small base dies that I need to get/ Any help will be great appreiated.

08-02-2011, 11:43 PM	#3
Ornery Senior Member Joined: Aug 2011 From: Texas Posts: 217	They work in my tc and handi rifle so all is good. I can use factory in the ar and bolt gun. But thanks for the help. I am good with what I have loaded now. Sorta like the tighter chambers on the ar and bolt gun now that I think of it. Besides I can get just about all the 223 ammo I need cheaper than i can load it. i have a source so to speak, well i do now lol. Last edited by Ornery; 08-02-2011 at 11:56 PM.

08-03-2011, 09:24 AM	#6
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	[QUOTE=Ornery;149688]I have taken care of the problem thank you for your help.[/QUO Last edited by tx gun runner; 08-03-2011 at 09:28 AM.

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08-02-2011, 08:10 PM	#2
deputy125 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008 From: Texas Posts: 6,150	wish i could help but i'm a lee loader man when it comes to rifle rounds..... off the top of my head, i would go the opposite route and when it comes to reloading for that particular rifle. reload only the fired factory rounds that you have put thru that one rife..........then neck size only on those reloads and skip full length sizing all-together. of course that might not help if you already have a bucket load of once fired 223 brass from other rifles. txgunner should be along tomorrow and he can help.

08-03-2011, 02:55 AM	#4
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	The shoulder could be too long ...... My 44-40 I had to grind .010 off the base of my full length die to make them fit all my Vaquero's . The other thing could be neck thickness or heavy crimp . Take 2 fired case and try them in gun , then full length size them , one with the decapper removed , then try them in gun again . Let me know what happen before we go to step 2 .

08-03-2011, 09:11 AM	#5
Ornery Senior Member Joined: Aug 2011 From: Texas Posts: 217	I have taken care of the problem thank you for your help.

08-03-2011, 09:27 AM	#7
Ornery Senior Member Joined: Aug 2011 From: Texas Posts: 217	made adjustment on the die.

02-08-2016, 03:26 PM	#8
beedee Junior Member Joined: Feb 2016 From: co.usa Posts: 2	need help and info. this second tie for this.have some range brass that measures 2.41 to 2.46 does not appear to have been trimed. head stamp lake city and fc. any ideals. thanlks

02-09-2016, 06:26 AM	#10
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	The same case length is very important to set all the crimps and tension the same and need to be trimmed to the same length . The length is not really that important but being the same is .

02-09-2016, 07:58 AM	#11
Dennis H Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,641	And welcome to the forum beedee!

02-09-2016, 05:03 PM	#12
moakes58 Senior Member Joined: Jan 2014 From: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 4,728	.223 Remington brass is trimmed to 1.750" If it's Lake City brass, it will probably have crimped primers & you will have to remove the crimp with a reamer before you can reprime it.

02-10-2016, 02:45 PM	#13
beedee Junior Member Joined: Feb 2016 From: co.usa Posts: 2	sorry I made a mess on my first post. I have some range brass that measure between 1.741 to 1.746. this brass seems to be fired 1 time shows no signs of having been trimmed. my manuals show to trim .223 to 1.750. is this stuff safe to use? are there maufacturs that have cases that are shorter then others. head stamps are fc and lc. this is the second time I have found brass lie this tossed out the first.

02-10-2016, 06:47 PM	#14
moakes58 Senior Member Joined: Jan 2014 From: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 4,728	Did you read my post above? If not fired from your rifle, I would full length resize it & you need to check that it has crimped primers, because the primer pockets will have to be reamed. Use your shortest piece of brass to set your crimp die up.