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Old 08-04-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Whatever happened to them? You don't hear or see much about them anymore.
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:29 PM   #2
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Real popular in shotgun slugs. Illegal in colorado muzzleloaders. Remember the accelerators?
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:35 PM   #3
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Real popular in shotgun slugs. Illegal in colorado muzzleloaders. Remember the accelerators?
The Accelerators? Wasn't that a rock group from England?
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Could a been not my era
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:52 PM   #5
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They're still very much alive and well in modern muzzleloading. In fact, they're the mainstay with all of the new guns being designed to shoot them. Attempts to make bullets with plastic skirts as an alternative have not fared, well, in terms of accuracy.

As for the accelerators, they're still around, but they never really caught on. Most folks who want a 22-250 just go out and buy one rather than try to make one out of their 30-06.
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:57 PM   #6
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I here alotta guys tryin to make their little 17 ' s into 22-250's
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They're still very much alive and well in modern muzzleloading. In fact, they're the mainstay with all of the new guns being designed to shoot them. Attempts to make bullets with plastic skirts as an alternative have not fared, well, in terms of accuracy.

As for the accelerators, they're still around, but they never really caught on. Most folks who want a 22-250 just go out and buy one rather than try to make one out of their 30-06.
I found a couple boxes of 30-30 Sabots in my father-in-laws house when I cleaned it out. Is it still legal to make them in centerfire?
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I found a couple boxes of 30-30 Sabots in my father-in-laws house when I cleaned it out. Is it still legal to make them in centerfire?
Help me out here. Do they let you shoot .223 bullets out of a 30-30? Or is it a different caliber it lets you shoot/

Either way, I can not imagine it being accurate.

I use .45 sabots in my .50 Cal. black powder & they are very accurate.
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Help me out here. Do they let you shoot .223 bullets out of a 30-30? Or is it a different caliber it lets you shoot/

Either way, I can not imagine it being accurate.

I use .45 sabots in my .50 Cal. black powder & they are very accurate.
There were made before .223 and shot .22 caliber if I remember right.
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I never shot accelerators but the concept is accurate in muzzy and shotgun slugs!
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I think they were 223.....50 grain or so for 30-30 and 06
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:59 PM   #12
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I still have some (maybe 2 or 300) .30 caliber sabots loaded with 50 or 55 grain .223 spitzer soft points. A friend of mine used them years ago in his .30-06 to shoot prairie dogs. He said that they were accurate enough for 100 yard hits.

He quit loading them and gave them to me. I planned to try them in my .30 Herrett but never got passed the planning stage.

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Old 08-05-2014, 06:40 AM   #13
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.30 Herrett Sabot

I took these pics last night of one of my loaded .30 Herrett rounds with a 50 grain Remington SP .223 bullet loaded into a Sabot. I've shot a few of these but I have not actually sat down at a bench to determine real accuracy. I may have to get back to that...

125gr Nosler on left - Incredibly accurate, 125gr Sierra - moderately accurate, 50gr Sabot - potentially accurate.


a couple of views



.30 Herrett compared to .32 WS


.30 Herrett compared to .222 on left and .223 on right.


Wow, tarnish, dirt and grime really show up in the pics... I'll wipe them down next time.
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I had not noticed how the lead tips of the bullets were crushed, I'll have to check my seating die.
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Thanks for the pictures.
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I had not noticed how the lead tips of the bullets were crushed, I'll have to check my seating die.
Thanks for the pics.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:29 PM   #17
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A 30 Herrett!!! Great cartridge in a Contender pistol. Is that what you have, KS?
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Yes ma'am!! .30 Herrett. An old 10" heavy barrel. Light recoil, very accurate. I shot it quite a bit years ago, shot two whitetails, several coyotes. I was working up 150gr loads and .50gr sabot loads for it then set it aside and started working with my .30 Carbine Blackhawk... Need to get it back out.
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Not much to look at but a very accurate handgun. I originally had a Leupold M8 2x scope on it but when I put the TSOB scope mount on my Super Blackhawk I used the M8 on it.

The little Simmons 4x has proven to be a decent scope though.



Pic of the SBH with the Leupold M8 and the TSOB (and it is too) mount.

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Nice rig. Oh, yeah, I do remember that golden age of the Contender when everyone was designing cartridges for it, the idea being to get max efficiency in a 10" barrel. The Herretts were a good example. The surge in popularity of the 14" barrels stole some of that thunder, making standard bottleneck rifle cartridges more practical to shoot.

You know, I've actually had good luck with those older made in Japan Tasco and Simmons scopes on my Contenders and have used them, no problems, all the way up though a 44 mag. Nothing wrong with those oldies at all.
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