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tx gun runner 10-13-2014 05:35 PM

45 auto in a BH
 
Found this in one of the sticky on this forum

http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=41

north country gal 10-14-2014 07:59 AM

That's a very interesting article, TGR. At one time I was thinking of going 460 Rowland on one of the 1911s for use as a self-defense gun against bears, but then decided that just going to a magnum revolver would be much more practical. Just couldn't convince myself to turn a 1911 into something it was never meant to be. If I wanted a magnum, why not just buy a magnum?

Most of our 1911s are gone, now, though we kept our favorite, our SA Mil-spec. (Go figure, out cheapest 1911 turned out to be our favorite.) Since we do have a large stockpile of 45 auto ammo and components, we've been thinning of going 45 auto in a revolver, likely one of the S&W 625 versions. Have to say, though, that a Ruger Convertible is appealing, IF I could bring myself to buy another Ruger.

Another 45 auto option I've been considering is going with a 45 auto barrel on a Contender. I could use the Ruger only type loads in a Contender, but no reason for me to do so, since I have plenty of magnums barrels for the Contenders. Problem with this option is that 45 Auto Contender barrels are scarce as hen's teeth and are priced, accordingly.

Oh, well, more food for thought. Thanks for the heads up on the article.

moakes58 10-14-2014 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by north country gal (Post 194768)
That's a very interesting article, TGR. At one time I was thinking of going 460 Rowland on one of the 1911s for use as a self-defense gun against bears, but then decided that just going to a magnum revolver would be much more practical. Just couldn't convince myself to turn a 1911 into something it was never meant to be. If I wanted a magnum, why not just buy a magnum?

Most of our 1911s are gone, now, though we kept our favorite, our SA Mil-spec. (Go figure, out cheapest 1911 turned out to be our favorite.) Since we do have a large stockpile of 45 auto ammo and components, we've been thinning of going 45 auto in a revolver, likely one of the S&W 625 versions. Have to say, though, that a Ruger Convertible is appealing, IF I could bring myself to buy another Ruger.

Another 45 auto option I've been considering is going with a 45 auto barrel on a Contender. I could use the Ruger only type loads in a Contender, but no reason for me to do so, since I have plenty of magnums barrels for the Contenders. Problem with this option is that 45 Auto Contender barrels are scarce as hen's teeth and are priced, accordingly.

Oh, well, more food for thought. Thanks for the heads up on the article.

You don't have the Sig Nightmare anymore? I liked that gun & you had great range results with it also!

I have been looking at the Ruger BH Convertible also. I wanted a revolver I could shoot .45 acp out of. I think the 5.5" barrel version would be perfect.
The .45LC is a great cartridge also.

tx gun runner 10-14-2014 08:59 AM

I think it was this forum 45 acp came up in a revolver so I made this post for them . ...

NCG
I've owned 3 Ruger 45 convertible in my life and only shoot one in 45 auto . I flew from Ca to Pa for a state Silhouette match in 1981 and left the 45 Colt cylinder in Ca :mad: So I shot match with the 45 ACP ammo from 1911 I was carrying :roll: at 200 yds I put the gun down and do my own spotting on the rams it was that slow to target and that is no joke . :) It knock over every ram I hit but they took a long time for them to fall over and it turned every turkey and none fell :mad: No more convertible guns for me . I never see anyone shoot 45 acp in cowboy action matches and 750 fps is number they like to hit . I guess the rifle is the problem . :cry: and don't want to carry 2 different ammo on there belt .

Machinist 10-14-2014 09:03 AM

I really wanted a SA that could shoot .45 ACP and even ordered one of the Lipseys Rugers a couple of years ago but canceled after waiting months for it. I have been dithering because I liked the idea but did not trust Ruger. Now I see that the Cimarron is available as a .45 Convertible so if I decide to get one I will go that route. It is not available in the finish I prefer or with adjustable sights but I basically just want to shoot ball or equivalent so fixed sights should work and I am sorry to say I trust the Italian quality control more than Ruger's.

I have autos and the Mod 25 S&W but I do like the SA just as a toy or fun gun. Won't have the money for some time anyway as we just spent about 15k on surgery for my wife but it is nice to dream and know there is a solution that does not involve Ruger. I really liked the feel of my 50th Ann. Blackhawk with the smaller frame. I have handled a Cimarron in .45LC and the quality and feel were outstanding. Add in TGR's experience with the brand and I am sold.

tx gun runner 10-14-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by moakes58 (Post 194769)
I have been looking at the Ruger BH Convertible also. I wanted a revolver I could shoot .45 acp out of. I think the 5.5" barrel version would be perfect.
The .45LC is a great cartridge also.

Remember to check Ruger cylinder sizing before you buy it if you looking for a good shooter .

moakes58 10-14-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tx gun runner (Post 194773)
Remember to check Ruger cylinder sizing before you buy it if you looking for a good shooter .

I have listened & learned. I am still looking & may go the Cimarron route also.
I am in no hurry!

north country gal 10-14-2014 09:43 AM

Mac, I've been looking at the Stoger/Uberti imports at one of our shops and have to say, I am also impressed with the fit and finish. Very tight guns, nice triggers.

tx gun runner 10-14-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by north country gal (Post 194777)
Mac, I've been looking at the Stoger/Uberti imports at one of our shops and have to say, I am also impressed with the fit and finish. Very tight guns, nice triggers.

Texas Jack owns Cimarron arms 60 mile from my house . If your FFL send Cimarron arms a FFL they can order direct from Cimarron arms and get discount prices .

Mac call Texas Jack and see if they have your gun if store if not they get one from Factory 2 mile down the road . Fredsrickburg Tx is a tourist trap and your wife will love it and it only a 120 mile SW of you . I will meet you there and buy you and your wife lunch .

http://www.texasjacks.com/

north country gal 10-14-2014 10:33 AM

Thanks, TGR. I'll check later this week when I stop in to our local shop to pick up the S&W. Meanwhile, I'll go visit their site.

Machinist 10-14-2014 11:03 AM

The one I handled was a 4 5/8" barrel in polished stainless or Nickel plate. My Blackhawk is in .357 so it weighs the same as an N frame S&W. I was surprised how light and handy the .45 was with the bigger holes. It was more like a K frame S&W. It felt very handy and helped me understand how experts like TGR can handle them so adroitly. It would not be practical but sure looks like fun.

Thanks John. I will remember when the time comes. Maybe I can talk to them about getting it plated. I don't mind blue but I really never cared for the look of case hardening. I would live with it if I had to. I'm afraid it will be awhile. We did not have this budgeted. Elena fell and badly dislocated her shoulder and it was operated on last Tuesday. She should be fine in time but we don't have insurance so we're a bit tapped now. Someday.

north country gal 10-14-2014 11:09 AM

Give Elena the best and a speedy recovery from all of us, Mac.

gunjunkie 10-14-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Machinist (Post 194781)
The one I handled was a 4 5/8" barrel in polished stainless or Nickel plate. My Blackhawk is in .357 so it weighs the same as an N frame S&W. I was surprised how light and handy the .45 was with the bigger holes. It was more like a K frame S&W. It felt very handy and helped me understand how experts like TGR can handle them so adroitly. It would not be practical but sure looks like fun.

Thanks John. I will remember when the time comes. Maybe I can talk to them about getting it plated. I don't mind blue but I really never cared for the look of case hardening. I would live with it if I had to. I'm afraid it will be awhile. We did not have this budgeted. Elena fell and badly dislocated her shoulder and it was operated on last Tuesday. She should be fine in time but we don't have insurance so we're a bit tapped now. Someday.

I hope Elena recovers quickly!

I never liked the look of case hardening either, and really hate guns that are fake case hardened.

tx gun runner 10-14-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machinist (Post 194781)
The one I handled was a 4 5/8" barrel in polished stainless or Nickel plate. My Blackhawk is in .357 so it weighs the same as an N frame S&W. I was surprised how light and handy the .45 was with the bigger holes. It was more like a K frame S&W. It felt very handy and helped me understand how experts like TGR can handle them so adroitly. It would not be practical but sure looks like fun.

Thanks John. I will remember when the time comes. Maybe I can talk to them about getting it plated. I don't mind blue but I really never cared for the look of case hardening. I would live with it if I had to. I'm afraid it will be awhile. We did not have this budgeted. Elena fell and badly dislocated her shoulder and it was operated on last Tuesday. She should be fine in time but we don't have insurance so we're a bit tapped now. Someday.

I know her pain .. I've had 3 rotator cuff operation on the right one and I need 1 more and I will never let that happen . 3 strikes and I'm done .

Here the finishes Cimarron offers and that dual cylinder nickle could be a problem . :)

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/car...nd-guns-1.html

Machinist 10-14-2014 06:01 PM

I will probably just end up with blue with the case colored frame. It is too bad the .45 ACP is only available as a convertible. I have no use for the .45 LC cylinder. Anyway, the price is reasonable. The hardest part will probably be picking the barrel length.

moakes58 10-14-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by north country gal (Post 194783)
Give Elena the best and a speedy recovery from all of us, Mac.

+1 on the recovery from me also Mac!

tx gun runner 11-07-2014 10:24 PM

Welcome from Tx ......... I love SA guns and I find them easier and faster to shoot then DA gun . You must control the roll of the SA to make them work .

north country gal 11-08-2014 08:00 AM

My biggest obstacle, at the moment, to adding an SA revolver to our collection is my husband. Bill, with his huge paws, does not like the plow handle grip of the typical SA revolver and I really can't blame him. The grip on even a mid frame size DA revolver is much more comfortable for him. Then, too, the fact that we've had such good luck with S&W revolvers has him a bit reluctant to try anything else.

The one possibility that I might work for him is Bisley, but finding one of them to pick up and try in our area is a lost cause. Pretty rare animal.

303Lithgow 11-08-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by north country gal (Post 195638)
My biggest obstacle, at the moment, to adding an SA revolver to our collection is my husband. Bill, with his huge paws, does not like the plow handle grip of the typical SA revolver and I really can't blame him. The grip on even a mid frame size DA revolver is much more comfortable for him. Then, too, the fact that we've had such good luck with S&W revolvers has him a bit reluctant to try anything else.

The one possibility that I might work for him is Bisley, but finding one of them to pick up and try in our area is a lost cause. Pretty rare animal.

I'm just the opposite. I like the balance and feel of a SA. I like Bisleys and birdsheads even though the birdsheads don't feel best. But they sure look cool.

north country gal 11-08-2014 08:42 AM

I'm with you on the looks of an SA all the way. Nothing beats an SA for looks. Just wish I had more options.


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