CZs

303Lithgow · 10-29-2014, 06:07 PM

I'm really impressed with the 17 CZ. The 22 win mag seems okay and I'm wondering if I should get a 22LR. Are CZs really that accurate or is it just the 17 caliber? What kind of results should I expect from a Henry in 17?

gunjunkie · 10-29-2014, 06:15 PM

I got a flyer from Cabala's yesterday advertising the Henry .17. They must be starting to come around again, but I doubt they would be as accurate as that bolt action.

303Lithgow · 10-29-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gunjunkie

I got a flyer from Cabala's yesterday advertising the Henry .17. They must be starting to come around again, but I doubt they would be as accurate as that bolt action.

Being a south paw I like lever actions but I do realize they aren't as accurate as a bolt.

james · 10-29-2014, 07:11 PM

My CZ452 Lux with an older Weaver six power scope.
Pleasantly accurate.

303Lithgow · 10-29-2014, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by james

My CZ452 Lux with an older Weaver six power scope.
Pleasantly accurate.

Nice James. Looks like a dark stock.

james · 10-30-2014, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 303Lithgow

Nice James. Looks like a dark stock.

Maybe just the lighting when I took the pic.
Certainly not light thought.

north country gal · 10-30-2014, 05:59 AM

303, to answer your question about the 17 HMR (or for that matter, the 17 HM2), yes, it is an inherently more accurate round than the 22 LR. That ballistically efficient tip is a clue as to why. My Bill does most of the rifle shooting, these days, and I promise you, that, time after time, whether shooting a 17 in our CZs, our Marlin or our TC pistols, he shoots smaller groups than he does with any of our 22 LR rifles and we do have some fine 22 rifles.This cannot be a coincidence.

As for the 22 LR accuracy in a CZ, I like James's description of "pleasantly accurate". Any CZ 22 LR rifle we've had, regardless of configuration, is capable of shooting down to half inch groups at 50 yards if you spend the time to experiment with different ammo and if you use a decent scope. Even our semi auto CZ 512 will do this. At the other end of things, I've never shot or heard of a CZ 22 LR that failed to shoot under an inch at 50 yards, even with the junkiest 22 LR ammo. Check some of my old range reports.

As for the 22 mag accuracy, of all the rimfire rounds, I've found the 22 mag to be the most responsive to trying different brands of ammo and loadings. Try different ammo, for sure.

As for the 17 HMR in a Henry, I would predict a bit more accuracy than with the 22 LR in the same model, but how much so I can only guess. You could head over to RFC and see if anyone has posted on this.

303Lithgow · 10-30-2014, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by north country gal

303, to answer your question about the 17 HMR (or for that matter, the 17 HM2), yes, it is an inherently more accurate round than the 22 LR. That ballistically efficient tip is a clue as to why. My Bill does most of the rifle shooting, these days, and I promise you, that, time after time, whether shooting a 17 in our CZs, our Marlin or our TC pistols, he shoots smaller groups than he does with any of our 22 LR rifles and we do have some fine 22 rifles.This cannot be a coincidence.

As for the 22 LR accuracy in a CZ, I like James's description of "pleasantly accurate". Any CZ 22 LR rifle we've had, regardless of configuration, is capable of shooting down to half inch groups at 50 yards if you spend the time to experiment with different ammo and if you use a decent scope. Even our semi auto CZ 512 will do this. At the other end of things, I've never shot or heard of a CZ 22 LR that failed to shoot under an inch at 50 yards, even with the junkiest 22 LR ammo. Check some of my old range reports.

As for the 22 mag accuracy, of all the rimfire rounds, I've found the 22 mag to be the most responsive to trying different brands of ammo and loadings. Try different ammo, for sure.

As for the 17 HMR in a Henry, I would predict a bit more accuracy than with the 22 LR in the same model, but how much so I can only guess. You could head over to RFC and see if anyone has posted on this.

The .22WMR ammo that I shot yesterday didn't give me very good results. But sometimes when I take more than one firearm I only give one the best treatment and I think that might have been what happened yesterday.

Next range day I'm going to take just one firearm and several brands/types of ammo.

10-29-2014, 06:07 PM	#1
303Lithgow Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: Washington State Posts: 16,373	CZs I'm really impressed with the 17 CZ. The 22 win mag seems okay and I'm wondering if I should get a 22LR. Are CZs really that accurate or is it just the 17 caliber? What kind of results should I expect from a Henry in 17?

10-30-2014, 05:59 AM	#7
north country gal Senior Member Joined: Jan 2013 From: northern wisconsin Posts: 5,997	303, to answer your question about the 17 HMR (or for that matter, the 17 HM2), yes, it is an inherently more accurate round than the 22 LR. That ballistically efficient tip is a clue as to why. My Bill does most of the rifle shooting, these days, and I promise you, that, time after time, whether shooting a 17 in our CZs, our Marlin or our TC pistols, he shoots smaller groups than he does with any of our 22 LR rifles and we do have some fine 22 rifles.This cannot be a coincidence. As for the 22 LR accuracy in a CZ, I like James's description of "pleasantly accurate". Any CZ 22 LR rifle we've had, regardless of configuration, is capable of shooting down to half inch groups at 50 yards if you spend the time to experiment with different ammo and if you use a decent scope. Even our semi auto CZ 512 will do this. At the other end of things, I've never shot or heard of a CZ 22 LR that failed to shoot under an inch at 50 yards, even with the junkiest 22 LR ammo. Check some of my old range reports. As for the 22 mag accuracy, of all the rimfire rounds, I've found the 22 mag to be the most responsive to trying different brands of ammo and loadings. Try different ammo, for sure. As for the 17 HMR in a Henry, I would predict a bit more accuracy than with the 22 LR in the same model, but how much so I can only guess. You could head over to RFC and see if anyone has posted on this. Last edited by north country gal; 10-30-2014 at 06:09 AM.

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10-29-2014, 06:15 PM	#2
gunjunkie Senior Member Joined: Jan 2014 From: Texas Panhandle. Posts: 3,788	I got a flyer from Cabala's yesterday advertising the Henry .17. They must be starting to come around again, but I doubt they would be as accurate as that bolt action.

10-29-2014, 07:11 PM	#4
james Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NSW, Australia Posts: 586	My CZ452 Lux with an older Weaver six power scope. Pleasantly accurate.