New Rifle - Gunner Forum
Gunner Forum

New Rifle

This is a discussion on New Rifle within the Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Forum category; When I get back home thinking it is time for a rifle in 22 WMR and time to dump out some of the safe. The ...


Go Back   Gunner Forum > Long Gun Forum > Rifles

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-28-2019, 06:12 AM   #1
Super Moderator
 
Terry_P's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Where it's warm
Posts: 10,448
New Rifle

When I get back home thinking it is time for a rifle in 22 WMR and time to dump out some of the safe. The Savage 93F looked decent but couldn't see how to mount a scope on it so started looking at the CZ's. Kind of narrowed it down to the CZ 457 American or the CZ 512 American. The former is a bolt and set up for scope mounting and the later is a semi auto and set up for scopes. At this point a scope is a necessity. Anyone have experience with either? One thing I am not looking for is anything with a heavy BBL.
Terry_P is offline  
Register

Welcome to Gunner Forum - a friendly gun forum for gun owners.

We welcome everyone and the community is free to join so register today and become part of the Gunner Forum family!

Old 01-28-2019, 07:48 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
gunjunkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2014
From: Texas Panhandle.
Posts: 3,811
The receiver on the Savage 93 is tapped for scope mounts. I've got one in .17 HMR that is very accurate, and was fairly inexpensive. But, I can't blame you for wanting a CZ. Their reputation speaks for it's self.
gunjunkie is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 09:06 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
RidgeRunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: Buck Ridge, Georgia
Posts: 3,406
Terry, I did not realize the CZ 452 was no longer available, until I had written my review on it. If you're interested, here it is:

I have a CZ 452-2E-ZKM AMERICAN in 22 Mag. First, let me say I highly recommend it. Sometimes when I get a gun that I really like, I tend to start making changes to make it better (to me). This is the case with this CZ.
I topped it off with a Leupold FX3 6X42. It’s a fixed 6 power and I love it. (https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle-scopes/fx-3-6x42mm)
It came with a 5 round magazine and I bought a CZ 10 round magazine. (Armament Services Int’s.)
I replaced the trigger with a Timney. I set it at 2#. It is a sweet trigger, no travel and a crisp break.
I replaced the trigger assembly mounting bolts with JP Custom Products action screw set #AS006 (hex head vs factory slotted) and the Striker Spring with JP Custom Products #R003. (better product than factory)
I removed the stock and put some sandpaper on a small pipe and sanded out the front grip a bit, just to get a little better free-float for the barrel.
I bought one of the paracord slings off e-bay. There are differences is color and quality. I like mine a lot.
It is not necessary to do anything to the CZ. It is an excellent shooter out of the box. As I said, I like to tinker with some guns. Be aware the safety is opposite what you may be familiar with. (i.e. It is opposite the Remington 700). I have owned this rifle for many years and have shot turtles, snakes, gators, and squirrel with it. It is a great shooter. In summary, I highly recommend the CZ 452 American in 22mag. Now prepare yourself for the upcoming 22Mag vs 17HMR discussion.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_5281.JPG (354.4 KB, 8 views)

Last edited by RidgeRunner; 01-28-2019 at 09:08 AM.
RidgeRunner is offline  
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:27 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
From: northern wisconsin
Posts: 5,999
Terrry, I have experience with the 512, though mine was not in 22mag, only in 22 LR.

The 512 was capable of astonishing accuracy, right there with my CZ bolt rimfiires. After all, it uses the same barrel as the CZ 455s. Out of the box accuracy, should be very good, then, in a 22 mag.

The not so good is the 512 trigger. Tends to be springy and a but mushy. Not easily modded like CZ bolt guns or upgraded with aftermarket setups like a 10/22. You're mostly going to be stuck with it, as is. Despite the accuracy of my 512, decided to sell it, mostly because of the trigger. The triggers on my little Browning SA 22s autos is much better. Fo r sue, I would try the trigger on a 512 before ordering one.

The 512 is, well, different, as far as design and construction quality. More modular and modern than even a 10/22. Traditional it is not, if that matters to you. For me, at least, kind of ugly and everyone knows what I think of ugly guns in the house.

The new 457 I have yet to see. The so-called "backward" safety on the previous CZ rimfire was never an issue to me. The improved bolt clearance on the 457 is a plus, to be sure, but I always managed to get big scopes on my CZ bolt guns with high rings.

The trigger on the new 457 is different than the 452 and 455s, which are ridiculously easy to get down to match grade pull weights. I suspect that someone will figure out how to do a 457 trigger mod, pretty quick, but, even so, the 457 will have a better trigger than a 512, right out of the box and as I understand it, the 457 trigger is adjustable, to some extent at least.

Last edited by north country gal; 01-28-2019 at 09:38 AM.
north country gal is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 09:28 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
RidgeRunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: Buck Ridge, Georgia
Posts: 3,406
I see the CZ 457 American changed the safety to meet the method most of us are used to.
RidgeRunner is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 09:41 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
RidgeRunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: Buck Ridge, Georgia
Posts: 3,406
I owned a Savage 22LR Bull Barrel Laminated Thumbhole Stock. I don't remember the model number, but it was a factory model. I was not impressed with the way the magazine fit into the stock. That part of the gun seemed very cheap to me, and I like Savage. I sold the rifle soon after buying it .
RidgeRunner is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 09:45 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
From: northern wisconsin
Posts: 5,999
A cautionary note on 22 mags. For me, the 22 mag has been the most unpredictable for accuracy as rimfires go, as far as what I've gotten out of the box on a new gun. Have had individual CZ, Rugers and Winchesters in 22 mag that were pretty miserable in the accuracy department, but have also had CZs, Rugers and Winchesters that have been excellent. Why, I don't know. Just my experience with 22 mags. Makes it all the more special, though, when I get a good one.
north country gal is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 10:17 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
bearcatter's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2015
From: Virginia
Posts: 3,905
Can't decide, just buy both .....
bearcatter is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 11:47 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
RidgeRunner's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: Buck Ridge, Georgia
Posts: 3,406
Quote:
Originally Posted by north country gal View Post
A cautionary note on 22 mags. For me, the 22 mag has been the most unpredictable for accuracy as rimfires go, as far as what I've gotten out of the box on a new gun. Have had individual CZ, Rugers and Winchesters in 22 mag that were pretty miserable in the accuracy department, but have also had CZs, Rugers and Winchesters that have been excellent. Why, I don't know. Just my experience with 22 mags. Makes it all the more special, though, when I get a good one.
I bought a Volquartsen Signature Series .22 Mag many, many years ago. (still have that tack driver). The factory recommended the Winchester S22WM for accuracy. I tried them and have never been disappointed. Granted, there is a mystical, magical, often unexplainable relationship between a certain ammo and a particular rifle, but the S22WM is the holy grail for me and a .22mag. (and then the angels began to sing )
RidgeRunner is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 01:46 PM   #10
GPB
Member
 
GPB's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2014
From: north central Pa.
Posts: 44
I see no mention of the very underrated Marlin rifles here. I have a JM stamped,1993 date of mfr Marlin model 883SS. 22 wmrf that is a tack driver at 100 yrds.
GPB is offline  
Old 01-28-2019, 04:46 PM   #11
Super Moderator
 
Terry_P's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Where it's warm
Posts: 10,448
I wanted a little more smack down than the 22 LR and I actually prefer a bolt action so if the trigger on the semi isn't as good then why spend extra. If you put the first shot where you need to you don't need a follow up. Thanks everyone it sounds like the CZ is a winner and I will check out the CZ and the 93F when i get back in the great white north. I don't expect the Savage will be as good as the CZ as it should be about half the price. I have some decent 3x9 scopes sitting in my gun safe so I can use one of them and just buy the rings and bases if I need them. Thanks all.
Terry_P is offline  
Old 04-22-2019, 10:41 AM   #12
Member
 
gemihur's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2016
From: VA
Posts: 48
GPB,
I'm right there with ya'!
Marlin bolt action 22 Magnums can't be beat.
Light and fast handling with accuracy beyond your expectation.
Do not underestimate a mach II 40 gr. projectile... a lot of deer have fallen albeit illegally to the little rimfire.
Thanks for sticking up for old JM.
Jimmy
gemihur is offline  
Old 04-23-2019, 05:10 AM   #13
Super Moderator
 
Terry_P's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
From: Where it's warm
Posts: 10,448
I have a Marlin Model 80 22 LR that I bought mail order in High School. I put a centerfire scope on it and it is quite accurate. That is what I've been using for over 50 years but getting sick of seeing them run off. I have a .222 rem but it's a little too loud as we had neighbors build east and west of us over the years so thought the 22 WMR may be a good compromise. Hey it's an excuse to get another rifle.
Terry_P is offline  
Old 04-23-2019, 07:41 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
44s Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
From: Far Western WA.
Posts: 10,879
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry_P View Post
I have a Marlin Model 80 22 LR that I bought mail order in High School. I put a centerfire scope on it and it is quite accurate. That is what I've been using for over 50 years but getting sick of seeing them run off. I have a .222 rem but it's a little too loud as we had neighbors build east and west of us over the years so thought the 22 WMR may be a good compromise. Hey it's an excuse to get another rifle.
Time to get a suppressor!
44s Rock is offline  
Reply

  Gunner Forum > Long Gun Forum > Rifles


Search tags for this page
cz 512 22 mag review
,

cz 512 22 magnum reviews

,

cz 512 22lr review

,
cz 512 accuracy
,
cz 512 magnum review
,
cz512 american 22lr accuracy
,
cz512 american reviews
,
cz512 standard magnum review
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Gunner Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My new rifle KimberLover Gun Talk 9 08-17-2018 12:06 PM
My new Tipton rifle bench vise KimberLover Gun Talk 4 03-05-2018 08:42 AM
Bushnell 4-12x40 RTS Multi-X Rifle Scope #764124RT only $49.99 gr8fuldoug Cameraland 0 08-26-2017 11:04 AM
2017 Rifle of the Year RidgeRunner Gun Talk 5 08-05-2017 10:33 AM
Old Military Rifle hoosierman Semi Auto Rifles 7 12-24-2016 04:28 PM


Top Gun Sites Top Sites List


Powered by vBulletin 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2012 Gunner Forum. All rights reserved.