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Old 10-08-2016, 07:53 AM   #1
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The new Ruger LCP II pistol

This was the latest "unannounced product". Still plastic, but a definite improvement. I didn't win it, but someone in Virginia did.

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcpII/models.html
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:06 AM   #2
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The only LCP I have fired was the original LCP in 380. A friend of mine bought it as her first real carry gun and brought it along on a visit. We took it to the range and I was actually impressed with the way the little gun shot. That long DA pull on that gun is probably a good idea for her, since no amount of scolding on my part can get her out to practice much with her gun. I think she's safer with the longer pull.

Otherwise, looks like a good value in a pocket gun, but I'm not much for pocket guns. Really have no use for one, right now.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:52 AM   #3
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Very nice improvements like S/A trigger pull, last round slide lock back & better sights & grip make it very nice. The old 6 round mags will work in the LCP II, but the slide won't lock back on an empty mag.

It also explains why the original LCP's are going for under $200, I have seen them down to $179
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It also explains why the original LCP's are going for under $ 200, I have seen them down to $ 179
That is the only thing that would get me to buy the old LCP. The of course I woul have to upgrade the trigger and put a grip sleeve on it. Maybe if I could get one for under $100 it would be worth it.
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I like the LCP. The DA trigger is much safer to carry ready to fire than the old SA pocket autos and it is thinner and easier to hide than the old .25 autos while offering an effective cartridge. I do not consider it a replacement for my regular carry gun but as a BU or as something to drop in a bathrobe or shirt pocket it is great. Mine is reliable and can be shot reasonably well. I could hide it when even a J frame S&W would be hard to conceal. If I was camping I would sling one around my neck at night along with a small survival kit so I would always be equipped if I had to bail out of a tent at night.

I would like to see a version offered with an inch or so longer slide and barrel with better sights and 3/4 to 1 inch longer grip, but remaining thin. It would be more viable as a carry gun while still being extremely concealable and easy to carry.

When you learn to use it, a DA trigger actually works well on moving targets or targets you are moving on.

If I found one that cheap I would be tempted to buy a second one.
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That is the only thing that would get me to buy the old LCP. The of course I woul have to upgrade the trigger and put a grip sleeve on it. Maybe if I could get one for under $ 100 it would be worth it.
I put a #11 Wolff spring & the Hogue dedicated grip (for $20 for both) & I like ours.

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42 Glock vs LCP .............. I'm opinionated and love Glock's and they are my 1st choice . They work 1st time every time and 1000 vendors to upgrade or make mod's to please you . Plus they don't break . My Glock 27 is my 1st choice on a hide gun .

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TGR, the Glock is a great pistol, but the LCP & the Glock are 2 different types of pistol.

The LCP with a good holster, is a true pocket pistol, where the Glock is not.
They are not the same type & that makes them hard to compare.

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TGR, the Glock is a great pistol, but the LCP & the Glock are 2 different types of pistol.

The LCP with a good holder, is a true pocket pistol, where the Glock is not.
They are not the same type & that makes them hard to compare.
The 42 Glock is not a pocket pistol ????? ... Personal I don't like the 380 or 9MM cal and I've owned over 20 of them in my life . I like 40SW or 45ACP cal much better in my opinion and my Kahr CM40 fits the bill for me in pocket pistol . I even cut my CW45 down to slip in my pocket . I know the 40 kick like a mule over a 380 but you will never feel the difference in a gun fight . Remember I have many pocket carry guns and this is my opinion and I'm just giving you a different view of a pocket carry gun .
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TGR, What makes this forum great is the different opinions based on life experiences & what it can teach you.

I have learned much here & will continue to do so. I encourage all to express your opinions, we are grown ups here, we can take it.
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As I said, I do not consider my LCP a replacement for the Kahr or any proper carry gun, but it is about 3/4" wide, very light, and slick. It would replace or compare to that North American Arms mini-revolver rather than the Glock or Kahr.

I don't normally carry any gun in a pocket, preferring IWB holsters, but the LCP I can drop into a shirt pocket to check the mail if I am dressed for the treadmill and not wearing a belt or I can drop it into a bathrobe pocket at night. If I thought trouble at all likely I would have my Beretta 92 or something else appropriate in hand (and probably pants on )

I don't always agree, my friend, but I ALWAYS listen to your advice and opinions with respect. I feel we are lucky to have such a wealth of learned and experienced people here who are willing to share.

Still waiting on that external hammer Glock.
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I can see this new version of the LCP as a true pocket gun. I only shot the original LCP once and didn't like it. The first round was dead on at seven yards I hit dead center of the X on the ten ring. Which is exactly what the gun is designed for. Close range to hit what you point it at. But the damn thing stung my trigger finger so bad that I didn't want to shoot it again. I managed to shoot a total of 10 rounds with it trying to find a grip that would work. Each shot went exactly where I pointed it but also stung the hell out of my finger.
I respect TGR and his opinion of the Glock 27 as a concealed carry gun. But we are talking big pockets for that pistol. I have shot the 27 and it is a great pistol. But I don't have any pants that have pockets that big. I have looked at the Glock 42 and it is about the same size as my Kahr. I do want a bug gun that is smaller than my Kahr CM9. And I may have to give this new LCP a look. I have thought about a NA .22 as a bug gun. But in my opinion the LCP makes more sense. It is not much bigger than the NA guns and packs way more punch than a 22.

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I did not have that problem with my original LCP, but my hands are small and I worked on a good grip with the middle fingers for holding small guns. I used Federal Hydro-shok ammo.

I have not held a new one but a little better grip would help if it did not hurt concealment too much.

I did have a problem with the laser on my Kahr CW40 hurting the back of my trigger finger and had to remove it. It clamps onto the trigger guard and intrudes some. This was mostly a problem with my right hand. I seem to have a bump on the back of the first joint of the trigger finger.

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But I don't have any pants that have pockets that big. I have thought about a NA .22 as a bug gun..
I have no problem ft pocket carry my 27 or CW45 . It is not my 1st choice in carrying them . I like NAA 22 mag around my neck and I carry it 24/7 .



This is my everyday carry system below . I've been doing this Cane FU stuff with a heavy bag now for over a month now and find it to be the best if defense tool I own if bad guy is under 6 ft in distance from me and the cane allows and give me the time I need to draw my main gun . You need a min of 15 ft to draw a gun from holster and more distance to draw from the pocket . I don't brandish a firearm and say stop . I draw and double tap the bad guy . A dead man makes a poor witness and can't sue you and never ever make a statement to police .[ ask George Zimmerman ] They can and will twist it against you . Say I want a lawyer 1st thing and answer no question . .
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I'm a huge fan of my lcp. Of course I don't have alot to compare it to, but all I know is it hides in my attire, and everything I feed it cycles and shoots perfectly. As far as the lcp 2, I wish they would have made the improvements but kept the original design. I know it's a Keltec rip off, but there's just something sexy about the lcp. It has curves in all the right places. The lcp 2 just looks too... Robotic to me, but that's just me. I am happy the original lcp is going to be even cheaper, I plan on getting my wife and my mom one
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My friends, is any gun topic more a matter of personal choice than the gun we carry for self-defense? Love that we have all these different preferences and that we can all discuss them without anyone getting upset. This truly is a forum of friends. Love it.

As for me, as most of you know, my self-defense needs are mostly a matter of the four-legged kind, so I do prefer revolvers and magnums, though I have carried 1911s in 45 auto and 10mm.
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I put a #11 Wolff spring & the Hogue dedicated grip (for $ 20 for both) & I like ours.
I put that 11 lb spring on my gen I too. It took some of the snappiness out of it.
I generally only opt for it over my XDs when I'm not supposed to be carrying.
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I put that 11 lb spring on my gen I too. It took some of the snappiness out of it.
I generally only opt for it over my XDs when I'm not supposed to be carrying.
I carry a Sig P238 most all the time, as does my wife & She has the LCP as a backup.


To the LCP II, I just ordered 1 from Kentucky Gun Company online for $ 288.

They are selling above MSRP ($ 349) around here locally & selling out.

It is selling like crazy online also. In fact everything is.

The election is driving sales

p.s. It's not for me, it will be licensed to a family member.

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My friends, is any gun topic more a matter of personal choice than the gun we carry for self-defense? Love that we have all these different preferences and that we can all discuss them without anyone getting upset. This truly is a forum of friends. Love it.
Yes ma'am, amen to that on any topic. My preference is a snub revolver, and I ended up with LCRs because no other quality snub offered a near identical .357 / .22 pair. For carry / practice. You can't get enough practice with a short sight radius.

Semi-autos tend to be more compact and "print" less, but there is always the possibility of a jam even in the best ones. That doesn't work for me.
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