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Old 04-27-2018, 08:02 PM   #1
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Guardian .32ACP on the way

Thought this needed a new thread. Bit the bullet and ordered the .32 NAA Guardian.

I know, .32? I just decided that if I'm going small I might as well go all the way. The .32 model is smaller and 13.5 ounces, 5 less than the 380. Like they say, any gun you carry is better than the one you left in a drawer.

The incidentals, ammo, etc. will be spread out over time, so it may be a while before I actually shoot it.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:31 AM   #2
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I had a 32 NAA for a bug gun for yrs . It was very choosy on ammo and like the high dollar stuff only . It was fairly accurate under 15 yds . I got the 22 mag NAA because I could hide it easier . I'm sorry I sold it . A neck holster would make it a great hide gun .
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Congrats on the new pistol. When you get the new gun get a box of 32's and try it out plus pics are a must.

I like TGR's idea of a neck holster. I believe he made it himself so maybe he could give a little how to instruction on building one.
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I'm keeping it stock. This is smallest photo I could snitch.



Fits on a 3X5 index card without going past edge.

Total will be $ 375 out the door. Reviews say it eats most anything flawless after a short break-in. Most mentioned is Speer Gold Dot, Hornady XTP, and Federal Hydra-shok.
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Congrats on the new pistol. When you get the new gun get a box of 32's and try it out plus pics are a must.

I like TGR's idea of a neck holster. I believe he made it himself so maybe he could give a little how to instruction on building one.
You need to check Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kydex-Neck-...EAAOSwZJBX~FcI
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Shopping trip

Went looking for ammo, etc.

Gander came up almost zero. Only ammo was Remington FMJ, $ 25 a box. I remembered Sportsman's Warehouse having it for 20, so I passed. No jags, brushes, or holsters.

I went to Sportsman's, and settled on 3 boxes of the Remington, 3 boxes of Aquila FMJ at $ 18. They also carry S&B, but were out. They had a grand total of three .32 brushes which I grabbed. Probably the only ones in town. No jags. They had Uncle Mike pocket and belt holsters to fit, but those can wait.

So six boxes of ammo and three brushes. I've decided that with a 2.1 inch barrel, I don't need jags. A patch loop will suffice.

I knew .32ACP would be a slight headache, but I can build up an ammo stash from Sportsman's and be okay. FMJ works. General consensus on .32 is that any HP will give lousy expansion, so you go for penetration.

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I carry 95 gr FMJ flat points in my .380. Figure penetration is the key, won't do any good if it only penetrates one of Bubba's man boobs and stops.
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My LEO brother calls them goo guns, because in order for them to be effective you need to be close enough that when you use it you're gonna get some goo on ya. Which it sounds like will be your second option.
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With .32 auto, you get a 71 grain bullet with 125 lb muzzle energy, going about 800 fps. .380 is 95 grain, 200 lb, and 900 fps.

I did the math. I'm losing 25% weight and 10% velocity compared to .380. The 38% drop in energy makes the 32 recoil a lot more comfortable, though. .380 is like a 95 grain .38 with the same energy and speed as a 125 gr .38. I imagined shooting my SP if it weighed half as much......, and that made me a .32 fan. I wanted something I could control, since follow-up will be right up there with placement and penetration.

Nobody expects any mouse gun to do well past 8-10 yards. It's the price you pay for having pocket size.
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9MM or 40SW is the min cal for CCW cal for me in my opinion .

I worked with Sam C. [275 lbs] who got shot 5 time with a 38 special . He took the gun off the shooter and beat him almost to death with the gun . Sam was out of the hospital long before the shooter .

I carry a 40SW and if you shoot me with a 32acp or 380 I will guarantee I will be able to return fire and I bet you will die before me . 32 and 380 are good bug guns .

In FBI Florida shooting in 1986 . Platt was shot 9 time with 9MM and 38 and killed 4 or 5 cops and put 4 more in hospital . I need to watch this again later .

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I'm not even that hot on a 9 MM even though that's what I carry. May get a Sig P320 sub compact in .40 S&W when I get home. For nightstand I have a Sig P250 in 45 ACP loaded with 200 or 230 gr JHP's. I keep my Ruger P94 in .40 S&W in a downstairs drawer during the day and bring it upstairs at night.

The .380 I only use when I exercise walk. Haven't run into any of TGR's biker buddies on the beach yet so figure it's enough for that.
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I'll still have the SP when it's carryable, but I'm commited to small carry over no carry in warm weather.

Ordered extras from NAA yesterday. Two mags, spare original grips, grip screws, and a set of recoil springs that include the guide. I don't forsee needing anything else. With more bore brushes and ammo, I'm set.

Later. This $375 pistol turned into $600 ...the "extras" add up really fast....
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The .380 I only use when I exercise walk. Haven't run into any of TGR's biker buddies on the beach yet so figure it's enough for that.
I live in San Diego and took me and my son on my dirt bike in the mountains . He was only 10 yrs old and riding with me . We been riding for about 6 hrs and have not seen anyone or a house and heading home on a cow path and there was 4 indians sitting under a big shade tree drinking whiskey . They blocked the cow path and took off there belts with big belt buckets and started to swing then a round . Couldn't turn around on the path so I stopped my bike and pull out my 45 Denonics [6 shot ] pointed at the sky I ask them if they really wanted to play . Told then to leave the area . I shot that gun in 50 PPC matches and won and set many records with it too .

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I live in San Diego and took me and my son on my dirt bike in the mountains . He was only 10 yrs old and riding with me . We been riding for about 6 hrs and have not seen anyone or a house and heading home on a cow path and there was 4 indians sitting under a big shade tree drinking whiskey . They blocked the cow path and took off there belts with big belt buckets and started to swing then a round . Couldn't turn around on the path so I stopped my bike and pull out my 45 Denonics [6 shot ] pointed at the sky I ask them if they really wanted to play . Told then to leave the area . I shot that gun in 50 PPC matches and won and set many records with it too .

http://www.handgunsmag.com/reviews/f...master_121305/
Had that happen in downtown Seattle at Pike Place one Sunday, scared the cwap out of the kids. That was when I began carrying full time! Thank God there was only one but that was a nasty belt.
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I'm not even that hot on a 9 MM even though that's what I carry. May get a Sig P320 sub compact in .40 S&W when I get home. For nightstand I have a Sig P250 in 45 ACP loaded with 200 or 230 gr JHP's. I keep my Ruger P94 in .40 S&W in a downstairs drawer during the day and bring it upstairs at night.

The .380 I only use when I exercise walk. Haven't run into any of TGR's biker buddies on the beach yet so figure it's enough for that.
I prefer the 45 over the 40, recently have been thinking about a M&P Shield or P320C in 45, sure would like to shoot one for evaluation.
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I prefer the 45 over the 40, recently have been thinking about a M&P Shield or P320C in 45, sure would like to shoot one for evaluation.
I do, too, if and when I have to carry for two-legged attackers. I know I give up some capacity with the 45 auto in something like a 1911, but I sure do like the cartridge. I trust it and know it, well. I suspect to could do the job on black bears, too, but still prefer a magnum for that. Lots of folks carry a 10mm Glock, around here, for woods work. That would sure do the job, too. The 10mm is a great cartridge.

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I carried 185 Hp in both 40SW and 45 ACP and both fly at 990 fps so both HP will expand . They are equal . If you taking FMJ or non-expanding bullets then the 45 is king . 9MM in FMJ is a joke for anyone to carry for a CCW . In my opinion .
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I made this for pocket carry . This fits in your ft pocket / DA / laser most important it 5+1 in 45 acp and it is super thin , all safety are automatic like a Glock with a better trigger . It is shame I never carry it .
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Guardian here

Picked it up an hour ago, and I like.

Fit and finish are 99.9%, real quality appearance. I'm glad I stuck with .32. The extra size and weight of the .380 wouldn't have made me as happy. And, I find racking the slide is stiff enough, the .380 would be more so. There are no slide locks on this gun.

Various posts online have some complaining about the trigger pull, but this one isn't bad; a little more than my SP's Wolff spring DA pull.

My NAA extras should have been here today, but P.O. routed them to a town 30 miles up the road. They notified me I'll get them tomorrow. I may wish I had ordered more finger extension bottoms for the mags. It ships with one extension mag and one flat. I can get two fingers on with the extension, one and a half without. But the flat bottom mags will be the "reloads", not left in gun.
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Various posts online have some complaining about the trigger pull, but this one isn't bad; a little more than my SP's Wolff spring DA pull.
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That is a DA gun only . The hammer and trigger is the same spring . A lighter springs will make a great trigger at the cost of a lighter hammer strike on a primer and MAY get a misfire in cold weather or over lubing it .
Polishing the trigger and hammer stuff is a better way . If your not happy with the trigger after polishing you got the wrong gun for you . My gun came with a holster bag to wear on your belt for carrying it . ... Good Luck with it .
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