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Old 09-15-2018, 08:22 PM   #1
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AR15's with 10.5 barrel.

I don't have an AR15 yet and have been looking at the AR pistols in 5.56 with 10.5 inch barrel. As a fun gun that will not see over 100 yrd shots, I am leaning towards one instead of a full length rifle. With a can to throw the flash and sound forward, they seem to be a nice option to a full size rifle. Therefore, I don't really need the extra length barrel and being shorter will be easier to carry in my sports car. Sight radius shortened would be my only concern thus far. What are your thoughts on one of these instead of a 16 inch plus rifle for my first AR?
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:04 AM   #2
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I have the Springfield Saint Pistol with a 71/2’’ barrel. It's muzzle brake is designed to throw the blast forward. It has been completely reliable with various ammo. With the right ammo it is accurate to 50 yds. I have not shot it at 100 yards yet, because I was testing various ammo to get it accurate at 50 yds first. I had a few brands that shot poorly. Hornady Varmint Express in .223 shoots very good. It is a very loud gun. You might consider the 300 BLK rather than the .556 if you want a suppressor. The 300 BLK was designed to run a suppressor in a short barrel AR. Springfield just released their Saint Pistol in 300 BLK. It would be sweet with a suppressor. There are some junk AR Pistols, so do your homework. Prices from silly cheap to over the top. If you have money to burn, consider the Radian 300 BLK Model One pistol. Regardless of what you buy in a short barrel AR, keep your hand away from the front of the barrel as you grip you gun. That is a good way to loose fingers. Good luck in your selection.
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RidgeRunner what are some examples of AR pistols you would avoid? I will not plan to get mine suppressed. Also, working on a budget plus it is my first AR.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:46 AM   #4
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Since my research was based on others reviews, I won't list what others say was bad.
Instead I will list some that everyone thought were good.

https://www.windhamweaponry.com/fire...iber-pistol-2/
https://shop.bravocompanymfg.com/Bra...tols-s/107.htm
https://danieldefense.com/firearms.h...h=33&caliber=6
https://www.springfield-armory.com/p...5-pistol-5-56/
https://radianweapons.com/rifle-category/rifles/rifle

Watch this video on the Radian Model One Pistol 300 BLK. You'll want to mortgage your home to buy one. I think everyone would enjoy this video.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1&&FORM=VRDGAR

I would avoid "custom builds" since you have no knowledge of the builder. He may be good....or not.
Do your own research.

I bought the Saint Pistol. I think it is a great value. Read the specs. Impressive for the money.

Mind you, this is just my opinion. If you find something different, please don't bust my chops.
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Here is a picture of mine.
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File Type: jpg Saint with Gieslee Trigger 2 Bandicoot.jpg (1.50 MB, 13 views)
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You have to decide what type of shooting that you want to do. If its longer distances with more accuracy, go with a rifle not a pistol. Personally I'd start with the rifle and put as much money into an optic that you can. The Springfield Saints are the best bang for your buck, be it a rifle or pistol version. Good luck!

Research research research...noone can tell you which firearm is the right one for you.

Oh, and if you can rent several before you buy, that will help you narrow the field.
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Oh, and if you can rent several before you buy, that will help you narrow the field.
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Thanks RidgeRunner.
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Are adjustable ar15 shoulder stocks not allowed and only pistol braces?
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I'm pretty sure shoulder stocks aren't allowed, or it would be a short barreled rifle.
Even though some of those stabilizing braces look like they could be held to the shoulder.
Maybe they don't extend out as far, though.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:08 AM   #11
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Are adjustable ar15 shoulder stocks not allowed and only pistol braces?
Do not put a shoulder stock on an AR15 pistol.
Here is clarification:
https://www.sigsauer.com/press-relea...lizing-braces/
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The wrist brace on this Saint looked like it could be used from the shoulder. Then I watched the video, and they were using it from the shoulder.
The way I read the law, you just can't alter the factory brace to an outright shoulder stock.
I might have to get one of these before they outlaw the loop hole. Seems like it would make a good truck, or saddle gun.

Ridge, is yours flat at the rear like this one, and will it extend as far?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSVr..._hsmi=67534181
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Mine is the Saint Pistol, not Saint Edge Pistol.
I haven't heard of the Edge Pistol until your post. Looking at the video and specs on the Springfield website I see these differences:
My barrel is 7.5" and the Edge Pistol is 10.3".
My brace does not move.
My total length is 26.5" The Edge is 24.6" collapsed.
It looks as though they went with a longer barrel (good idea) and shortened the closed brace distance (length of pull), but added the slide extension. (Clever Idea) The longer barrel should give complete powder burn (and I suspect better accuracy) where the 7.5" does not have complete burn.
The Edge also comes with flip up sights, ambi-safety, and the flash suppressor can be removed to add a can. Mine did not come with sights or ambi-safety and my barrel stops inside the rail, so if I remove the "flash diverter" the can won't fit inside the small diameter rail. However, I would not want a can unless it was on the 300 Blackout.
My brace is not the flat blade look. It is similar to the one on the Edge, only a bit wider.
I would like to see them side by side. I think I would prefer the Edge.
I can't find a price on the Edge Pistol. I think I paid $ 890 for mine.
If you look at 32 seconds into the video you will see his barrel is about to hit the saddle. I don't believe mine would be close to it.
Here is a link to both of the pistols: https://www.springfield-armory.com/saint-series/
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That site you posted shows $ 989 MSRP for the Pistol, and $ 1559 for the Edge. So probably around $ 1350 actual price. They're mighty proud of'em. But the Edge comes with a Match single stage, short reset trigger. Maybe the price will go down after the new wears off.

I'd like to know what the length of pull fully extended is.

Edit: I looked up that brace (stock), and it is over $400 alone. It says it extends to 10".
http://www.firearms4less.com/stocks/...pdw-brace.html

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When Springfield introduced the Saint Pistol it was a few months before it hit the dealers. They followed up with the 300BlK a few months later. I suspect it will be the same with the Edge. I imagine the Edge will be very popular. Thanks for posting the price. I reckon I'll just be happy with what I have for awhile. Let us know if you get one.
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