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This is a discussion on ar optic within the Semi Auto Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Forum category; recently got a new bushmaster m4a3 and was wondering if anyone could give me an opinion on a good reliable red dot or acog style ...


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Old 12-16-2011, 03:44 AM   #1
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recently got a new bushmaster m4a3 and was wondering if anyone could give me an opinion on a good reliable red dot or acog style optic. Im not looking to spend 900 or up. I know the old saying you get wat you pay for, but dose anyone know of a reliable optic for around 250 or 300. If so I would like to hear of it and how well it works if you can please.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:04 AM   #2
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don't now about a red dot and 300 yard shooting...........depends on what is acceptable

but my old patrol rifle had a bushnell Holo site..no longer made. closest thing is the eotec and a lot of leo like them. especially with irons co-witnessed thru the optic.

plenty accurate enough for a measure of precision at 100 yards.....center mass at 300.

if you flat-top you have tons of options in fixed and folding rear sights and front sights, riser blocks, etc, etc.

if you maintain the "handle", you can still co-witness in front.

i just prefer irons be available for rifles as a back-up for serious social occasions.

if this is for "fine" precision and general target/fun.......scope
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:28 PM   #3
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tanks i was actually lookin at a holo site, more in my price range and as u stated is more multi-capable
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:37 AM   #4
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Either an Eoteh or Aimpoint. Not cheap but both are battle proven and look right at home on an AR. Keep in mind both are made for getting on target fast and are not the best choice for beyond 200 yards.
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Heck, If we're not shooting past 200 yards, I might as well stick with Iron Sights, Oh wait, I did. I can still dial my rear barrel in and hit further.

I spent my money on a night vision scope so I can pop it on and shoot in the dark too.

I wouldn't mind having a Red Dot or Reflex Holo Sight or something fancy like that. Maybe I'll buy one. The ones that USMC uses are expensive.

Hey, what do you guys think of these?
http://www.atncorp.com/open-collimating-reflex-sights
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Heck, If we're not shooting past 200 yards, I might as well stick with Iron Sights, Oh wait, I did. I can still dial my rear barrel in and hit further.

I spent my money on a night vision scope so I can pop it on and shoot in the dark too.

I wouldn't mind having a Red Dot or Reflex Holo Sight or something fancy like that. Maybe I'll buy one. The ones that USMC uses are expensive.

Hey, what do you guys think of these?
http://www.atncorp.com/open-collimating-reflex-sights
What kind of night vision scope did you get? pics?
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What kind of night vision scope did you get? pics?
I couldn't afford to spend many thousands on the gen3 scopes and NV googles (Stuff that I used in the Corps). I was real skeptical but picked up a gen1 scope (vietnam era). It works great and has a red reticle with IR light built in. No black spots or anything. It's a Yukon Varmit hunter.
I picked it up for 389.00 plus free shipping through B&H photo. They had excellent Cust Service and Super Fast shipping. I've had it for about two months now and it's been great so far. As soon as I get the camera out I will snap a photo of it on my M-4 and post it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...er_1_5x42.html



I'm hoping to hunt Pigs and Coyotes with it.

What do you think 303Lithgow?

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What do you think of these for an AR platform 5.56 16"barrel Carbine?
http://www.atncorp.com/open-collimating-reflex-sights

I've no first hand experience with ATN. Are they garbage?

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There is a port on the NV Scope for a camera hook up.
If I can figure how to combobulate it together, I'll get a picture at night of the field of view.

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I couldn't afford to spend many thousands on the gen3 scopes and NV googles (Stuff that I used in the Corps). I was real skeptical but picked up a gen1 scope (vietnam era). It works great and has a red reticle with IR light built in. No black spots or anything. It's a Yukon Varmit hunter.
I picked it up for 389.00 plus free shipping through B&H photo. They had excellent Cust Service and Super Fast shipping. I've had it for about two months now and it's been great so far. As soon as I get the camera out I will snap a photo of it on my M-4 and post it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...er_1_5x42.html
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I'm hoping to hunt Pigs and Coyotes with it.

What do you think 303Lithgow?
I have a gen 1 and love it. My friend has the gen 3 and there is a big differance though. The pic is one on my M1A. Its top heavy and sits to the side. Its really hard to hold upright while shooting.

I think you will love the one you posted.

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Whoa, 303Lithgow, That is sweet. Looks like the one I had on a M2 .50cal in Desert Storm. It is a bigun.

On another note, I told the family that I ddn't want anything for Christmas. I have everything a man could want.
I recieved a package in the mail. It was from my boy in serving in Afgan. a Leica Rangemaster 1600 CRF laser rangefinder. It's Awesome. ........From my boy!
I'm trying not to well up here.
I really am a lucky man.

BTW, nice M1

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Whoa, 303Lithgow, That is sweet. Looks like the one I had on a M2 .50cal in Desert Storm. It is a bigun.

On another note, I told the family that I ddn't want anything for Christmas. I have everything a man could want.
I recieved a package in the mail. It was from my boy in serving in Afgan. a Leica Rangemaster 1600 CRF laser rangefinder. It's Awesome. ........From my boy!
I'm trying not to well up here.
I really am a lucky man.

BTW, nice M1
Great gift. Tell him thanks for serving for me. And thank you for serving also.
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Great gift. Tell him thanks for serving for me. And thank you for serving also.
Yes Sir, I will

For me, it was an honor and a privilege to serve.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:27 PM   #13
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Here ya go, it's an Aimpoint.





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Old 01-19-2012, 03:42 AM   #14
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Here is a NC Star 3x12x50 red dot ( i know not the highest quality ) but it works for Yote hunting at nite.

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Whoa, Beerman,
Is it night vision or just lets enough light in so you can see enough to pop them little howlers?

Kim, Aimpoint makes nice stuff but; I'm thinking that I'd have to be saving up my clams to buy one or an EOtech. There is so many different variations that I am not sure what to buy either.

In the Marines, I didn't have to make those choices. For Staff NCO's or Urban Terrain they just issued the gear with an M4. I know how to use them but am trying to learn all the technical aspects still. (Red Dots, Reflex, Holographic and such) That's a long winded way of saying Clueless

Scopes is not as much of an issue. I have a bunch of training on Night Vision Systems and lasers even more so.

I could get up with one of my buddies that knows more about this stuff but, I usually discuss firearms stuff mostly with you guys. It's good that way.

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Whoa, Beerman,
Is it night vision or just lets enough light in so you can see enough to pop them little howlers?

No Gunny its just a lighted recticle with power from 1-12 with a red dot. I use it with a green laser that is mounted right above the fold down handle and a flash light on the other side.
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No Gunny its just a lighted recticle with power from 1-12 with a red dot. I use it with a green laser that is mounted right above the fold down handle and a flash light on the other side.
Sounds like you've got yourself a well put together weapons platform Brother.

That's a carbine too huh? 16" barrel?
Is that a 6.8 or just a 5.56 w a heavy barrel?
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Sounds like you've got yourself a well put together weapons platform Brother.

That's a carbine too huh? 16" barrel?
Is that a 6.8 or just a 5.56 w a heavy barrel?
16" and 5.56 HB. You know your weapons there Gunny.
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16" and 5.56 HB. You know your weapons there Gunny.
Too bad that doesn't include Red Dots!
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Too bad that doesn't include Red Dots!
Gotcha.
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