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Old 03-01-2014, 10:00 AM   #1
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I was at an account working with one of my coworkers on Friday. He showed me pictures of his new dog, and I don't have dogs but I showed him some pictures of my 10/22 refinishing project. We finished up our work for the day and as I was driving home he called and asked if I would be interested in an old 12 gauge single shot that had been in his family for years. I asked what he wanted for it and he said I could have it free. His wife is afraid of guns and has been on his back to get rid of it. No one else in his family wants it and he didn't want it destroyed. He doesn't know what make or model it is, just that it is old and still shoots he used it last summer to kill a copperhead that moved in too close to the house. He said it locks up tight and shoots good. I will pick it up from him on monday.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:09 AM   #2
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Maybe it's a hand-me-down from Dick Cheney.
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Post pictures when you get it.
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Could be interesting...and fun.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:38 AM   #5
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You never know about some of those old single shots. Some are actually collectible. Very interesting. Keep us posted.
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You never know about some of those old single shots. Some are actually collectible. Very interesting. Keep us posted.
I can't wait to find out what it is.
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Yeah I am looking forward to getting it. It's kind of like being a kid and waiting for Christmas. No matter what it is the price is right!
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Yeah I am looking forward to getting it. It's kind of like being a kid and waiting for Christmas. No matter what it is the price is right!
Ho ho ho, were you a good boy so far this year?
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I never turn down free guns. I got a nice Winchester Model 37 16g that way. Wife told him to get rid of it, he thought that I might appreciate his grandpa's old gun. He was right, I do!
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Oh, yeah, a 37 is collectible.
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I picked up the shotgun today. It is an Iver Johnson and was definitely manufactured before 1929. It belonged to my friend's Great Grandfather. He said that he knew it was over 100 years old but didn't know exactly how old. It seems Gramps put a lot of food on the table with it hunting and winning turkey shoots with it back in the day. It has seen a lot of use and has a very nice brown patina, a lot of dings and scratches. The marking's that I can make out are on the left side of the receiver and I can clearly read the top line. IVER JOHNSON'S The next line starts out AR S then gets hard to read till I can make out CY then RKS. The third line is FI then hard to make out till SA.
A little research led me to find that the Company name was Iver Johnson's Arms and Cycle Works in Fitchburg Mass. from 1891 to just before the Great Depression in 1929. There are no markings on the barrel that I can make out and no serial # anywhere. Some later models were supposed to have serial #s on the bottom of the trigger guard.
I seriously doubt that I will ever fire it, even though my friend said he shot a copperhead with it last year. I think I will just clean it up and give it a nice home. Here are a few pics. I will take some better ones when I can shoot out side in decent light. It has a 30" barrel measuring from the breech to the muzzle. The front bead sight was brass and is just about completely gone it is just a small brass bump.







I don't know what this piece is, it appears to be some sort of lever. On the bottom of the receiver

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Very nice. Don't clean it too much. The beauty is in its age.
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Ah, if that old timer could speak. Very nice.
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That's a cool old Shotgun. I bet it's still a shooter, as well as a wall hanger. Could that lever be to release the hinge pin?
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[QUOTE=RetiredSeabee;178917]I picked up the shotgun today. It is an Iver Johnson and was definitely manufactured before 1929. It belonged to my friend's Great Grandfather. He said that he knew it was over 100 years old but didn't know exactly how old. It seems Gramps put a lot of food on the table with it hunting and winning turkey shoots with it back in the day. It has seen a lot of use and has a very nice brown patina, a lot of dings and scratches. The marking's that I can make out are on the left side of the receiver and I can clearly read the top line. IVER JOHNSON'S The next line starts out AR S then gets hard to read till I can make out CY then RKS. The third line is FI then hard to make out till SA.
A little research led me to find that the Company name was Iver Johnson's Arms and Cycle Works in Fitchburg Mass. from 1891 to just before the Great Depression in 1929. There are no markings on the barrel that I can make out and no serial # anywhere. Some later models were supposed to have serial #s on the bottom of the trigger guard.
I seriously doubt that I will ever fire it, even though my friend said he shot a copperhead with it last year. I think I will just clean it up and give it a nice home. Here are a few pics. I will take some better ones when I can shoot out side in decent light. It has a 30" barrel measuring from the breech to the muzzle. The front bead sight was brass and is just about completely gone it is just a small brass bump.

RetiredSeabee, I bet that is Iver Johnson's Arms and Cycle Works , But I see you know that. I also found that later on they where imported from Belgium & had a top snap & side snap model & also marked with Champion name on top of barrel and patent date of July 27, 1880, 6 1/2 lbs. Mfg. 1880-1900.

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Moakes, Yes it is I found pictures of some on line that are in better shape and the three lines on the receiver are:
IVER JOHNSON'S
ARMS & CYCLE WORKS
FITCHBURG MASS USA

They made firearms, bicycles, and motorcycles later on.

I am going to ask my friend more questions about his Great Grandfather to see if I can nail it down to a closer date of manufacture.
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That's a cool old Shotgun. I bet it's still a shooter, as well as a wall hanger. Could that lever be to release the hinge pin?
It may be, I am reluctant to pry on it or force any parts on the gun. It has obviously been disassembled many times long ago as every pin and screw as been marked up. All of the pins on the right side have been hammered on several times. on the left side they all look pretty well unmarked. I suspect they were driven out from the left with a punch and hammered back in on the right. The stock is in pretty bad shape a lot of scratches and the original owner carved his initials in it pretty big on one side and just his first initial on the other side. There are some pretty big cracks in the butt stock. And the butt plate is gone. The wood itself is pretty, it is American Black Walnut.
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