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Old 12-14-2013, 06:18 AM   #21
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Well, given my experience with the standard New Bearcat, I'm in no hurry to get another one, anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but it's the "once burned (more than once, in fact)" thing with me, now.

The Bearcat just doesn't fit my shooting style and interests, anyway. Even if you get by all those issues TX mentioned, you still have a little gun with crude sights that is anything but user friendly to shoot if you expect any kind of accuracy. They're cute, yes, but my Ruger Standards with a similar barrel length ( 4 1/2") will put the Bearcat and even a lot of 22 autos to shame in the accuracy department, fixed sights and all. If you want a small pistol that will shoot with amazing accuracy and last several lifetimes, the RST 4 Standard is a much better hand gun.
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:32 AM   #22
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Well, given my experience with the standard New Bearcat, I'm in no hurry to get another one, anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but it's the "once burned (more than once, in fact)" thing with me, now.

The Bearcat just doesn't fit my shooting style and interests, anyway. Even if you get by all those issues TX mentioned, you still have a little gun with crude sights that is anything but user friendly to shoot if you expect any kind of accuracy. They're cute, yes, but my Ruger Standards with a similar barrel length ( 4 1/2") will put the Bearcat and even a lot of 22 autos to shame in the accuracy department, fixed sights and all. If you want a small pistol that will shoot with amazing accuracy and last several lifetimes, the RST 4 Standard is a much better hand gun.
Cute goes a long ways with me. I just like the small size and birdshead grip.
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Cute goes a long ways with me. I just like the small size and birdshead grip.
This is the same frame as the birdshead 38 I sold you . The cylinder is reamed not drilled . The barrel is .222 for 22LR not .224 for the mag and there is no budge in barrel because they are hand fitted . This gun is built correctly and a gun to match your 38.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/car...el-ca3036.html

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Old 12-14-2013, 07:18 AM   #24
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Cute? Naw!

Now, this, this is my idea of cute.

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This is the same frame as the birdshead 38 I sold you . The cylinder is reamed not drilled . The barrel is .222 for 22LR not .224 for the mag and there is no budge in barrel because they are hand fitted . This gun is built correctly and a gun to match your 38.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/car...el-ca3036.html
I like the looks of it. I tried buying one a few months ago but they weren't available. I should try again but I have my Henry project that is taking all my funds at the moment.
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I like the looks of it. I tried buying one a few months ago but they weren't available. I should try again but I have my Henry project that is taking all my funds at the moment.
Texas Jack and Cimarron are in Fredricksburg Tx . If your FFL send his FFL to Cimarron they will sell direct to him wholesale . Texas Jack is there retail store and could have one in stock .

http://texasjacks.com/
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Texas Jack and Cimarron are in Fredricksburg Tx . If your FFL send his FFL to Cimarron they will sell direct to him wholesale . Texas Jack is there retail store and could have one in stock .

http://texasjacks.com/
I'll need to wait a couple months on this.
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I'll need to wait a couple months on this.
Remember If your FFL goes threw his normal jobbers he will never find one in the next 5 yrs .
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Remember If your FFL goes threw his normal jobbers he will never find one in the next 5 yrs .
Thanks, I'll tell him to check it out.
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Machinist, sorry to hear about your experience with the Ruger. Fortunately for me, my local hardware store still sells firearms. Incredible selection. It's where I purchased many of my firearms including my Uberti 1875 Outlaw.

Check out their selection. http://www.orchardshardware.com/departments/gun-shop
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I did a lot of SASS/CAS shooting [ not anymore ] Everyone I know sent the 45 Colt cylinder in the last 10 yrs out to get them reamed to the correct size and make them all the same and then you must fire lap the choke out of the barrel and keep your finger crossed the transfer bar don't break . The last 5 Rugers SA 22 I've owed were junk . I sold them all at big lost . I had 4 Vaquero's in 44-40 and 2 of them was sent back to Ruger and they replace the barrels and cylinders in both guns because they were not made correctly . They came back perfect but it took over 2 mo's . I've had some super SA Ruger but it is rolling the dice . All my Glock's and Uberti's guns have been perfect and I'm picky .
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While not all my Ruger Mark pistols have been perfect out of the box, they've been close enough. A little easy tweaking and any Mark can be an excellent pistol. From a production point of view, the design is idiot proof and Ruger on their worst production day can't screw one up. I have no hesitation buying any new Ruger Mark pistol. Same for the Ruger 1911. Ruger revolvers, though, never again. No big deal, because revolvers don't fit into my shooting scheme, anyway. Kind of funny for a lever action gal, but until I find a single action revolver brand I can trust (and afford), I'll do without.

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While not all my Ruger Mark pistols have been perfect out of the box, they've been close enough. A little easy tweaking and any Mark can be an excellent pistol. From a production point of view, the design is idiot proof and Ruger on their worst production day can't screw one up. I have no hesitation buying any new Ruger Mark pistol. Same for the Ruger 1911. Ruger revolvers, though, never again. No big deal, because revolvers don't fit into my shooting scheme, anyway. Kind of funny for a lever action gal, but until I find a single action revolver brand I can trust (and afford), I'll do without.
The 22 auto loaders in Ruger are normally good because they use 1 reamer not 6 drill bits to chamber them . They also use a .222 barrel in the auto not .224 barrels they put in single-six for the extra mag cylinders to shoot .
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With my luck I did in fact get a bad Standard Auto. My first gun when I was 18 was a Standard Auto. I think I paid about $45.00 for it and I bought three extra magazines. It rarely got through one magazine without one or more jams. I had been torn between the Ruger and a S&W Kit gun but the revolver was over $80.. and I would have had no money left for ammo for my coming camping trip. I was also swayed by the claims of extreme reliability, the ads spoke of tests where they shot 42,000 rounds without a mishap. I bitterly regretted not getting the S&W and ended up giving the Ruger away. I was even more disgusted than I am now but I know the Ruger has an outstanding reputation and I have even recommended it but I would never buy another one.
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Wish I had known you back then. I would have gotten that Standard p and running or given it my best shot. You should have gotten the Kit gun, of course. It would be worth its weight in gold, today.
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Mac save your money up . I'm about ready to sell my High Standard and I will give you 1st shot at if you want . Like my Marlin it must go to a good home and I have only shot this target in the last 20+ years . Like the Marlin it is is in like new condition . I have a lot of Eley brown ammo for it too . I'm never going to shoot it in matches or hunt anymore . I have the original grips and muzzle break that works great on running rabbits ....






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Maybe it's because my Rugers were made a number of years ago, but I have 8 and have never had one problem.
2- Single Six's
1- New Model Super Blackhawk 44 magnum
1- Old Model Blackhawk Flat Top 357 magnum
1 - New Model Blackhawk 45 Convertible (my newest, made 2006)
1- Mk III
1 - 10/22
1 - Mini 14
I would bet my life on any one of them.
And for comparison purposes I also have Uberti and Pietta single actions, old S&W DA's, and various Colts (revolvers and autos).
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rpd, I suspect you're right about the older Rugers. All of my negative experiences with Ruger revolvers and Rugers, in general, have been in the new production stuff. It's almost as if Ruger has shut down quality control and eliminated any finishing and tuning needed to get the job done right. I suspect this is why I've had fewer issues with their autoloaders - they don't require the fitting and tuning that you need to do with revolver. As far as I'm concerned, this would not be happening if Bill Ruger was still alive and overseeing things.
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I don't think it's the Rugers you people are just unlucky .

Mac: Sorry to hear about your problems. It stink when you get someone new and it doesn't work right.

I have owned 13 Rugers and the only issue I have had is with the LCR. It locked up on me once but then the trigger reset. I suspect it had a burr on it as it hasn't reoccurred. I really would like to replace with a Smith 642 but try and find one locally in NH. Places that have them are notorious for ripping you off on a trade in.
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Good to see you, Terry.
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