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This is a discussion on Ultimate Survival Gun (Pistol and/or Rifle) within the Survival forums, part of the Gunner Forum category; I posted my 44-40 92 winc earlier for handloaders or this 92 winc in 38/357 for factory stuff . The 92 are light and fast ...
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626 |
I posted my 44-40 92 winc earlier for handloaders or this 92 winc in 38/357 for factory stuff . The 92 are light and fast . They are as fast as a full auto rifle and easier to handle then a pistol and are super accurate and will kill anything you shoot at with a wide choice of ammo from 38 to 357 mags and with a peep it is better then a scoped gun on running targets . ![]() |
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Senior Member Joined: Feb 2009 From: McKinney, TX Posts: 8,994 |
I would be quite happy with a good lever action .357 Magnum. Light and fast handling, able to share ammo with the revolver.
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 422 |
I have some .357 revolvers. I wanted a lever .357 Still do. Went with a bolt action .357 I picked up a 77.357. I'm still getting the bugs worked out. Only NIB Ruger I've ever had to send back for work. Shoots .38's also ![]() I also have a 10/22 takedown that I can throw in a pack. ![]() ![]() Both all weather rifles |
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Interesting topic.....hope we never get to find out which one of us was right
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
I'm startin to come around to them all weather rifles myself....they make sense
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Why did u have to send it back gunny?
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,968 | |
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Senior Member Joined: Feb 2009 From: McKinney, TX Posts: 8,994 |
I really like that 77/.357 but I would be afraid to buy a Ruger. The lever actions are handier and faster but that bolt looks to have a sturdiness and simplicity that make a good survival rifle. I just can't accept betting my life of Ruger reliability and durability at this point. Last edited by Machinist; 05-10-2014 at 11:08 AM. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626 | Quote:
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 422 | These are supposed to be super dependable from everyone I've talked to and reviews I've read. It wouldn't fire more than it would. Dented primers. I called NH plant to ask how to adjust firing pin protrusion and they said, oh no, send it to us. They replaced the firing pin and some more of the bolt parts. It fires every time now but they gouged the stock, It looks like in a vise maybe. I was unhappy about that. There were marks all over the rifle that weren't there when I sent it in. Disappointed. It was a brand new rifle. At first I was like, ok stuff happens before I sent it in. If I would have known I would have fixed it myself or taken it to my gunsmith. I would use the AZ plant still but I can tell you that I will not send anything back to the NH plant, ever again. ![]() |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 422 | Quote:
Yea well, my needs were for a survival rifle calibered iin .38/357 I wasn't looking for a cowboy competition shooter. Don't get me wrong, I like levers and have been eyeballin a Henry in .357mag | |
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Course they would deny and say it was like that when they got it....that's too bad
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 422 | Quote:
I will email the CEO and then let him decide if he wants to keep a really good customer or not. I don't give a rats ass what they say at the plant in NH. They are building a new plant in NC. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: colorado Posts: 5,660 |
Hopefully they replace the stock 4u
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626 | You don't stand a chance In a fire fight or shooting running game with a bolt gun . ![]() For survival rifle a lever gun is top in my opinion . Last edited by tx gun runner; 05-10-2014 at 10:39 PM. |
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Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 422 | Thanks, Picture doesn't show like it looks in real life. There was a mar on the receiver and a small scratch on the barrel but those aren't a major issue. I polished the mar on the receiver some. The rifle was absolutely filthy also. Not a big deal or an issue there. I figured I'd mention it. It sure doesn't look as if they treated my asset with any TLC. I guess another stock would be cool but, like I said, I don't want to send this back to NH again. Quote:
Running? I will lead them. If I have to shoot more than twice, someone else should be doing the hunting maybe. Survival is looking bleak at that point IMO. One shot One Kill! A firefight? If there a chance of a firefight, I'm going to be packing an MSR instead of a 10/22 or a 100 yard rifle. Something in Semi Auto most likely or maybe even a bit more ![]() Got that covered too. here are just a few examples. If things were that bad where people were doing those things. Breaking into Gunny's compound may very well be the last thing they ever do. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Like I said, just a few examples. I could even equip my own fire team and have enough ammo to hold out for a while. I've seen enough fire fights in my time. God forbid I ever see another. But if the need arose, Gunny's got it covered. I Love lever actions, like I said. They are sweet but wouldn't be the first thing I reach for to engage the two legged predator. | |
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Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626 |
I missed the whole point of this post for sure . It said Ultimate Survival Gun (Pistol and/or Rifle) and I was thinking 1 gun to do the whole job . In Survival a running rabbit or deer could be your only shot to put food on the table that week . I'm good a moving targets offhand with a lever gun with peeps . This gun is my next choice I will take anything you shoot at out to 1000 yds easy . I have a 18"x18' steel target at 200 yds I've NEVER missed it with this gun offhand in 10 yrs . ![]() Last edited by tx gun runner; 05-11-2014 at 12:31 PM. |
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Banned Joined: Jul 2014 From: USA Posts: 32 |
If I lived where autoloading rifles were illegal (no way in hell I'd do that) i'd choose the DPMS pump action variant of the AR15. It has a threaded muzzle for a sound suppressor and flash hider, and it will take a .22lr conversion unit. I'm not going to lug around a longarm that has no more range than a pistol rd offers and I'm not lugging centerfire ammo to do things that can be done with a .22, either. All that practice required to make a lever action as fast for repeat hits (with wussy loads) as the autorifle is (with 223 softpoints) is just wasted time and money. |
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Banned Joined: Jul 2014 From: USA Posts: 32 |
if the bolt is fast enough for your needs, your needs must not include defense, cause a bolt is 5x as slow for repeat hits as a good autoloader. There's no reason at all to just grant an attacker (human or animal) that extra time.
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Banned Joined: Jul 2014 From: USA Posts: 32 |
a rabbit aint gonna feed you for one DAY, much less for a week. So what's the point of favoring a shotgun? It aint worth a hoot on a running deer (except broadside, 20 yds, with 000 buck) small game just aint WORTH a 12 ga shell, in a shtf situation. Too much noise, bulk, and weight, and too little game, vs the risk of calling in every enemy within 2 miles. If they know jack about guns, the 12 ga's distinctive (non-rifle type) blast will tell them that you're stupid and very limited in your ability to fight.
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