Ultimate Survival Gun (Pistol and/or Rifle)

tx gun runner · 09-20-2015, 04:53 AM

I think a 357/ 38 is a good choice in a lever gun . It will make a great defense gun because it is light and fast and will make a good hunting gun for both small and large game too .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOsQ9eDO3TE

moakes58 · 09-20-2015, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tx gun runner

I think a 357/ 38 is a good choice in a lever gun . It will make a great defense gun because it is light and fast and will make a good hunting gun for both small and large game too .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOsQ9eDO3TE

It is very nice to be able to use 2 different calibers in 1 rifle, I just never personally got into that caliber.

303Lithgow · 09-20-2015, 06:33 AM

I have an 1892 Rossi in 38/357 that would be a good mountain survival firearm.

north country gal · 09-20-2015, 07:58 AM

Another vote for a 357 revolver. I could feed myself - small game and big game - and defend myself with a good 357 revolver and, of course, we have plenty of 357 revolvers. In a survival situation, I think the big advantage of a handgun as opposed to a rifle, even a carbine, is that you will always have the handgun at reach. Even with a light carbine rifle, there will be times you set it down to do other things. That could cost you your life if taken by surprise.

If I did choose a rifle, it would be a carbine, though. A 30-30 lever gun has a proven track record as a bush country survival gun, but I'd most likely opt of something like our CZ bolt Carbine in .223. Ammo is cheap, doesn't take up a lot of space and is light in weight. True, I'd be giving up rate of fire with a bolt gun, but, in return, I get better accuracy, reliability and durability.

tx gun runner · 09-20-2015, 09:47 AM

I got 3 bucks with this gun that I used 16 yrs in Cowboy Action shooting . The 1st buck I shot I thought I missed him . I didn't hear the bullet slap and he took off running so I thought I missed . I never shot hunting ammo in this gun before .The next 3 when in the belly because I was shooting a slow bullet and I wasn't leading the deer and the 5 th shot I lead him and broke his shoulder . That was 5 hits at a deer and 4 of the shots he was running at 75 yds . Now you know why I love lever guns . Sold it to a buddy here in Tx .

P.S. The 1st bullet was perfect shot .

303Lithgow · 09-20-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by north country gal

Another vote for a 357 revolver. I could feed myself - small game and big game - and defend myself with a good 357 revolver and, of course, we have plenty of 357 revolvers. In a survival situation, I think the big advantage of a handgun as opposed to a rifle, even a carbine, is that you will always have the handgun at reach. Even with a light carbine rifle, there will be times you set it down to do other things. That could cost you your life if taken by surprise.

If I did choose a rifle, it would be a carbine, though. A 30-30 lever gun has a proven track record as a bush country survival gun, but I'd most likely opt of something like our CZ bolt Carbine in .223. Ammo is cheap, doesn't take up a lot of space and is light in weight. True, I'd be giving up rate of fire with a bolt gun, but, in return, I get better accuracy, reliability and durability.

In basic training I set my M14 down to dig a trench and was chewed out by a Drill Instructor. He showed me the proper way to sling the rifle in the back and still be able to dig. But would we really do that out mending fences on the back 40?

Oldman11 · 12-25-2016, 08:20 AM

I think I would go with my 410-.22 side by side,it's not a over and under. .22 for small game and 410 slugs for larger animals. I have killed more than a few deer with the .22, it's all in shot placement.

Don357 · 01-02-2017, 07:09 AM

Someone mentioned an O/U .22mag/.410, I would be well satisfied with something like that, or even just a .22mag carbine. Small enough for squirrel yet powerful enough for most other critters with proper shot placement. Then again, a Taurus Circuit Judge carbine that shoots .454 Casul, .45 LC, and 3" .410, or the Marlin lever gun that takes .410 and .45LC. Either of these would suffice in a survival situation.

KimberLover · 01-02-2017, 09:23 AM

I am a little late on making a comment for this post, but my two cents:
I have what I think is one of the top of the line defense, game and survival rifle and pistol.
5.7 X 28 FN. AR 57 with 50 round mags and a 57 FN pistol with a 20 round mag.
Bullet diameter is .224" and highly accurate.
The AR has a scope and a laser. The pistol has open sights and a laser mounted under the barrel.
TGR is right on about the 38/357 as I have always chosen that caliber before I got the 5.7 X 28.

Terry_P · 01-03-2017, 06:24 AM

If I ever get into a survival situation it will be holed up at home where I will have plenty of firepower.

Oldman11 · 01-11-2017, 04:13 AM

I also have the true survival gun,the m6 scout, small,lite and easy to carry. Ammo storage in the stock ready to go. Mine is the .22-410 model,I wish I had bought the .22 hornet-410 before they quit making them. I also have the ruger 10-22 take down which would be good. I keep 500 rds .22lr mag and extra clips in the storage bag. I would grab both if I had to leave in a minute.

north country gal · 01-11-2017, 07:03 AM

Of course, when talking survival, the devil is in the details as to the actual nature of the survival situation. I still like the revolver. A 357 is hard to beat, but now that I have the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Convertible, I'm kind of partial to it. Being able to use those Ruger only 45 Colt loads makes it a better big game or dangerous game choice than a 357, but still gives me the option of shooting 45 ACP for other threats. Really hard to beat for versatility,

Thejonl · 01-11-2017, 09:30 AM

It's hard to say, but here's some things to think about :I think in a survival /apocalypse situation, ammo would be scarce and precious. Reloading equipment might not be readily available. I think there would be more 22 ammo around than anything else, maybe 38 special. Shotgun ammo would probably be available too. So it's a question of what ammo would be available. Also, there wouldn't be much of a supply of cleaners and lubes to keep auto loaders functioning so I'd have to say either a revolver or break action shotgun

bearcatter · 01-11-2017, 09:52 AM

My original reply is pages ago, but I'll rehash. I think a long barrel stainless .357 Blackhawk would be good. I don't think Ruger makes stainless in 9 inch anymore? Just that .357 leaves you a lot of both magnum and .38 loads and styles for many situations. A long barrel handgun would be easier carry and more versatile than lugging a rifle.

If we, God forbid, were in the middle of a military "action"; sticking to military calibers may be more practical as they could be "scrounged" from casualties or abandoned equipment. Firearms themselves would sometimes be available as well.

09-20-2015, 09:47 AM	#145
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	I got 3 bucks with this gun that I used 16 yrs in Cowboy Action shooting . The 1st buck I shot I thought I missed him . I didn't hear the bullet slap and he took off running so I thought I missed . I never shot hunting ammo in this gun before .The next 3 when in the belly because I was shooting a slow bullet and I wasn't leading the deer and the 5 th shot I lead him and broke his shoulder . That was 5 hits at a deer and 4 of the shots he was running at 75 yds . Now you know why I love lever guns . Sold it to a buddy here in Tx . P.S. The 1st bullet was perfect shot . Last edited by tx gun runner; 09-20-2015 at 09:49 AM.

01-02-2017, 09:23 AM	#149
KimberLover Senior Member Joined: Sep 2013 From: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,142	I am a little late on making a comment for this post, but my two cents: I have what I think is one of the top of the line defense, game and survival rifle and pistol. 5.7 X 28 FN. AR 57 with 50 round mags and a 57 FN pistol with a 20 round mag. Bullet diameter is .224" and highly accurate. The AR has a scope and a laser. The pistol has open sights and a laser mounted under the barrel. TGR is right on about the 38/357 as I have always chosen that caliber before I got the 5.7 X 28. Last edited by KimberLover; 01-02-2017 at 09:29 AM.

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09-20-2015, 04:53 AM	#141
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	I think a 357/ 38 is a good choice in a lever gun . It will make a great defense gun because it is light and fast and will make a good hunting gun for both small and large game too . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOsQ9eDO3TE

09-20-2015, 06:33 AM	#143
303Lithgow Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: Washington State Posts: 16,373	I have an 1892 Rossi in 38/357 that would be a good mountain survival firearm.

09-20-2015, 07:58 AM	#144
north country gal Senior Member Joined: Jan 2013 From: northern wisconsin Posts: 5,997	Another vote for a 357 revolver. I could feed myself - small game and big game - and defend myself with a good 357 revolver and, of course, we have plenty of 357 revolvers. In a survival situation, I think the big advantage of a handgun as opposed to a rifle, even a carbine, is that you will always have the handgun at reach. Even with a light carbine rifle, there will be times you set it down to do other things. That could cost you your life if taken by surprise. If I did choose a rifle, it would be a carbine, though. A 30-30 lever gun has a proven track record as a bush country survival gun, but I'd most likely opt of something like our CZ bolt Carbine in .223. Ammo is cheap, doesn't take up a lot of space and is light in weight. True, I'd be giving up rate of fire with a bolt gun, but, in return, I get better accuracy, reliability and durability.

12-25-2016, 08:20 AM	#147
Oldman11 Junior Member Joined: May 2016 From: Louisiana Posts: 11	I think I would go with my 410-.22 side by side,it's not a over and under. .22 for small game and 410 slugs for larger animals. I have killed more than a few deer with the .22, it's all in shot placement.

01-02-2017, 07:09 AM	#148
Don357 Junior Member Joined: Sep 2015 From: Mobile AL Posts: 6	Someone mentioned an O/U .22mag/.410, I would be well satisfied with something like that, or even just a .22mag carbine. Small enough for squirrel yet powerful enough for most other critters with proper shot placement. Then again, a Taurus Circuit Judge carbine that shoots .454 Casul, .45 LC, and 3" .410, or the Marlin lever gun that takes .410 and .45LC. Either of these would suffice in a survival situation.

01-03-2017, 06:24 AM	#150
Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,343	If I ever get into a survival situation it will be holed up at home where I will have plenty of firepower.

01-11-2017, 04:13 AM	#151
Oldman11 Junior Member Joined: May 2016 From: Louisiana Posts: 11	I also have the true survival gun,the m6 scout, small,lite and easy to carry. Ammo storage in the stock ready to go. Mine is the .22-410 model,I wish I had bought the .22 hornet-410 before they quit making them. I also have the ruger 10-22 take down which would be good. I keep 500 rds .22lr mag and extra clips in the storage bag. I would grab both if I had to leave in a minute.

01-11-2017, 07:03 AM	#152
north country gal Senior Member Joined: Jan 2013 From: northern wisconsin Posts: 5,997	Of course, when talking survival, the devil is in the details as to the actual nature of the survival situation. I still like the revolver. A 357 is hard to beat, but now that I have the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Convertible, I'm kind of partial to it. Being able to use those Ruger only 45 Colt loads makes it a better big game or dangerous game choice than a 357, but still gives me the option of shooting 45 ACP for other threats. Really hard to beat for versatility,

01-11-2017, 09:30 AM	#153
Thejonl Member Joined: Sep 2016 From: Oklahoma Posts: 40	It's hard to say, but here's some things to think about :I think in a survival /apocalypse situation, ammo would be scarce and precious. Reloading equipment might not be readily available. I think there would be more 22 ammo around than anything else, maybe 38 special. Shotgun ammo would probably be available too. So it's a question of what ammo would be available. Also, there wouldn't be much of a supply of cleaners and lubes to keep auto loaders functioning so I'd have to say either a revolver or break action shotgun

01-11-2017, 09:52 AM	#154
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,852	My original reply is pages ago, but I'll rehash. I think a long barrel stainless .357 Blackhawk would be good. I don't think Ruger makes stainless in 9 inch anymore? Just that .357 leaves you a lot of both magnum and .38 loads and styles for many situations. A long barrel handgun would be easier carry and more versatile than lugging a rifle. If we, God forbid, were in the middle of a military "action"; sticking to military calibers may be more practical as they could be "scrounged" from casualties or abandoned equipment. Firearms themselves would sometimes be available as well.