Has anyone tried the .22lr conversions in 223?

derailuer · 08-30-2014, 04:48 PM

I"ve seen a place that sells them for the AR15, Mini-4, and the AK. Now, at first blush, this seems to me to be a great idea for survival and shtf. Why be stuck with just a rimfire or just a centerfire, when you can easily have both? Carrying a pack and 2 rifles aint very practical (at all).

Sure, during caliber swaps, there's a few seconds of time with your rifle "down", but hey, everybody plans to be cleaning their bore a lot, and the rifle is most certainly out of the fight while you've got a cleaning rod in the bore, eh?

Some seem to think that a .22 autoloader, with a 30 rd magazine, is some sort of joke, but if the range is not much beyond 100m, it's quite a deadly tool.

Yes, you can have some sort of 22 handgun paired with your centerfire rifle, but then you either won't have a pistol with some stopping power, or you have to lug along another pistol. Also, practice with the .22 handgun won't make you more skilled with the shtf rifle, but practicing with the .22 conversion will help your rifle skills.

Especially given a scope on your rifle, at dusk, dawn or in thick cover, the .22 unit in a rifle will be considerably more likely to take game than a .22 handgun (especially if using the iron sights on the handgun).

When you go with 2 rifles, you have to put scopes, trigger jobs, luminious sights, folding stocks, etc, on both. With the .22lr unit, anything that you do to the centerfire is automatically also done to the .22 unit. That one fact can save you a ton of money.

Any contrary thoughts/experience? Ive seen claims that if you are dumb and fire 10,000 rds of .22's without any centerfire rds being fired, the lead and wax buildup can cause problems. So I"d make it a point to fire a couple of 223's for every 200 or so rds of .22lr, just to blow out the crud.

tx gun runner · 08-30-2014, 09:24 PM

I hate 22 conversion

You can buy a good 22 cheaper then the cost of a conversion .

Nutty Ned · 08-31-2014, 04:28 PM

Hey, great idea----I never thought about blowing out the lead with a jacketed bullet.

KS95B40 · 08-31-2014, 06:14 PM

Is the door still open!?

303Lithgow · 08-31-2014, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS95B40

Is the door still open!?

That's what I was wondering too.

303Lithgow · 08-31-2014, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx gun runner

I hate 22 conversion

You can buy a good 22 cheaper then the cost of a conversion .

I have the M261 bolt just because it was military and collected it because of that. As far as being practical it isn't. Nothing but problems and the Military did away with it. I do have an AR22 dedicated upper that fits a regular AR15 lower and it shoots great.

tx gun runner · 09-01-2014, 08:33 AM

Isn't a 10/22 much cheaper then a AR22 upper and special mags .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProMag-Archa...item54062e82a7

303Lithgow · 09-01-2014, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx gun runner

Isn't a 10/22 much cheaper then a AR22 upper and special mags .

You could buy ten 10/22s for what I've got into this one. But it would be like comparing a Vega to a Corvette.

tx gun runner · 09-01-2014, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 303Lithgow

You could buy ten 10/22s for what I've got into this one. But it would be like comparing a Vega to a Corvette.

There in nothing wrong with a 10-22 and this $100 kit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProMag-Archa...item54062e82a7

tx gun runner · 09-01-2014, 08:55 AM

Don't laugh at me But I paid more for this kit then Charger ...

303Lithgow · 09-01-2014, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx gun runner

There in nothing wrong with a 10-22 and this $100 kit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProMag-Archa...item54062e82a7

Nothing wrong with a Vega either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx gun runner

Don't laugh at me But I paid more for this kit then Charger ...

It's one of the coolest Chargers around too.

moakes58 · 09-01-2014, 03:55 PM

I regret not buying a Charger while they were still in production.

It was on my "to buy" list!

brianinpa · 09-02-2014, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moakes58

I regret not buying a Charger while they were still in production.

It was on my "to buy" list!

I regret not buying one at a Cabela's when I saw a used one for sale...

303Lithgow · 09-02-2014, 09:46 AM

I wish I had bought a second one to setup like TGR'ers. Here is what I did with mine. A Mare's Leg of course.

tx gun runner · 09-02-2014, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moakes58

I regret not buying a Charger while they were still in production.

It was on my "to buy" list!

There is a lot for sale ..

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=438465461

08-30-2014, 04:48 PM	#1
derailuer Junior Member Joined: Aug 2014 From: USA Posts: 2	Has anyone tried the .22lr conversions in 223? I"ve seen a place that sells them for the AR15, Mini-4, and the AK. Now, at first blush, this seems to me to be a great idea for survival and shtf. Why be stuck with just a rimfire or just a centerfire, when you can easily have both? Carrying a pack and 2 rifles aint very practical (at all). Sure, during caliber swaps, there's a few seconds of time with your rifle "down", but hey, everybody plans to be cleaning their bore a lot, and the rifle is most certainly out of the fight while you've got a cleaning rod in the bore, eh? Some seem to think that a .22 autoloader, with a 30 rd magazine, is some sort of joke, but if the range is not much beyond 100m, it's quite a deadly tool. Yes, you can have some sort of 22 handgun paired with your centerfire rifle, but then you either won't have a pistol with some stopping power, or you have to lug along another pistol. Also, practice with the .22 handgun won't make you more skilled with the shtf rifle, but practicing with the .22 conversion will help your rifle skills. Especially given a scope on your rifle, at dusk, dawn or in thick cover, the .22 unit in a rifle will be considerably more likely to take game than a .22 handgun (especially if using the iron sights on the handgun). When you go with 2 rifles, you have to put scopes, trigger jobs, luminious sights, folding stocks, etc, on both. With the .22lr unit, anything that you do to the centerfire is automatically also done to the .22 unit. That one fact can save you a ton of money. Any contrary thoughts/experience? Ive seen claims that if you are dumb and fire 10,000 rds of .22's without any centerfire rds being fired, the lead and wax buildup can cause problems. So I"d make it a point to fire a couple of 223's for every 200 or so rds of .22lr, just to blow out the crud. Last edited by derailuer; 08-30-2014 at 04:52 PM.

09-01-2014, 08:33 AM	#7
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	Isn't a 10/22 much cheaper then a AR22 upper and special mags . http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProMag-Archa...item54062e82a7 Last edited by tx gun runner; 09-01-2014 at 08:42 AM.

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08-30-2014, 09:24 PM	#2
tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	I hate 22 conversion You can buy a good 22 cheaper then the cost of a conversion .

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Nutty Ned Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: NC Posts: 580	Hey, great idea----I never thought about blowing out the lead with a jacketed bullet.

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KS95B40 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2013 From: Kansas Posts: 519	Is the door still open!?

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tx gun runner Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008 From: Ft Hood , Tx area Posts: 11,626	Don't laugh at me But I paid more for this kit then Charger ...

09-01-2014, 03:55 PM	#12
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303Lithgow Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: Washington State Posts: 16,373	I wish I had bought a second one to setup like TGR'ers. Here is what I did with mine. A Mare's Leg of course.