Coronavirus

bearcatter · 03-09-2020, 08:37 AM

We now have our first cases, two, in Virginia. One is an 83 year old man in Fairfax VA ( D.C.) who just returned from a Nile cruise. The other is a Marine at Fort Belvoir (also D.C.). He had just returned from a "European assignment', was all the Pentagon said.

I'm wondering about my bus job. There is a possibility of this virus shutting us down, but I understand they have insurance to cover our being paid, and their lost revenue. I hope I've heard right, third hand from a supervisor telling a co-worker.

Terry_P · 03-09-2020, 12:48 PM

Supplemental Unemployment Benefits. You may have to file for UC and that makes up the difference between that and an agreed % of your weekly pay. Not sure how a city handles things.

RidgeRunner · 03-09-2020, 03:59 PM

On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that New York state currently has 142 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus, making it the state with the most confirmed cases in the U.S.

Previously, Washington state had been the area with the most cases -- according to the Washington state Department of Health, there are 136 confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus.

bearcatter · 03-10-2020, 09:35 AM

On the morning radio news, reporting there are now enough numbers to say China's corona virus is in decline. New case totals are dropping, more coming out of quarantine than going in. So it has a roughly 50 day cycle.

We are behind their first occurance, so have about 4-5 weeks to go until ours reverses. Maybe sooner. It was explained that each time it's passed on, it's weaker. It takes several exchanges from China to here.

Terry_P · 03-10-2020, 03:03 PM

Went to WalMart this afternoon and in the main aisle in the grocery they had a huge sales display of and I swear it to be true.............................................. Corona Beer.

RidgeRunner · 03-11-2020, 06:07 AM

First Mexican victim of Corona virus.

44s Rock · 03-11-2020, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidgeRunner

Georgia has become ground zero. 3500 people from an infected coronavirus cruise ship in California will be brought to a base near Atlanta. I suspect it is because the CDC is in Atlanta.

From what has gone on here, I'm not sure I have much faith in the CDC!

44s Rock · 03-11-2020, 06:56 AM

My daughter went to Costco for meds the other day, shoppers in Hazmat suits and people climbing racks to get at overflow stocks, it was nuts!

Terry_P · 03-11-2020, 12:01 PM

There isn't a bottle of hand sanitizer to be had in Florida. I keep one in the car and use when I come out of a store, post office, etc. Have done that for years. Got some left but may not be enough to make it home at the end of this month. I'll go with plan B.

Terry_P · 03-12-2020, 05:32 AM

Here it is:

bearcatter · 03-12-2020, 07:07 AM

I've heard that this "new" coronavirus may have already been around for over a year. Each flu season, there are several types. The CDC tries to determine which one will be the most prevalent, and makes the flu shot for that one. They often get it wrong, but it still has reasonable effect on the different flu.

The "new" virus may have been mixed in with the other types and gone unnoticed. Symptoms aren't that much different, and the random testing for types could have skipped it. So thousands may have already had it a year ago. With no overblown scary news, or panic attacks.

44s Rock · 03-12-2020, 07:32 AM

We are getting daily updates. As of yesterday, 385 confirmed cases in King County alone, our epicenter. Our Gov Snake informed us, he is consulting with the VP but it was real funny that the VP's report came the day before the Gov's conference call. How does that work? Guess the Gov is telepathic.

Now, after the Genie is out of the bottle we are restricting large groups 250+ state withe and King county 100+ unless they pass a Heath Dept.t review. School closures are supposed to be under review the next two weeks. Now, all, "ALL" discussions on schools by medical professionals have been, closures are a bad ides! The youngest kids would be sent to day care centers or high risk grandparents and teens will do what teens automatically do! They congregate in groups, usually in Malls or regular hangouts. It is much better to have them in a controlled environment! Gee! An hour after yesterday's public announcement, most of King County's School Districts announced two week closures starting today!

I just find it interesting that we had the first case in the US, the first deaths, 23 to date from the same facility I believe, and arguably the best health care and medical facilities ie the US if not the world with UofW / Harborview, Sweedish, Fred Hutch and research centers funded by Gates and Allen, and these people, for all of their bluster, were either not prepared or really botched it big time. This was not on the Feds, they had warning!

I'm not sure if any of you watch the TV show The Resident but it might bring some of the problem into perspective. Our major east-side hospital facility near Life Care Center, not the one that actually received the patients, has their ER department screaming for supplies and staffing since this started, guess what managements response has been? Yep , just handle it, you have enough! Don't need no F-ing special gear! And we have been told for years how well trained our region has been trained, staffed and supplied to handle any sort of medical emergency or natural disaster! Sure makes one wounder, what happened?

bearcatter · 03-12-2020, 10:27 AM

Article on Associated Press today pointed out an overlooked statistic.

China has diagnosed 80,000 cases, and 56,000 of those have recovered. About 3500 dead. The Chinese are heading back to normal. Doesn't sound so awful, huh?

RidgeRunner · 03-12-2020, 11:00 AM

email from my Congressman:

WASHINGTON – Congressman Rick W. Allen (GA-12) held a telephone town hall Wednesday night to answer questions from residents of Georgia's 12th District about the coronavirus situation. Congressman Allen gave an update on steps the federal government is taking to keep Americans safe. For those who were unable to participate in the call, here are some of the highlights:

Blair from Swainsboro asked how the coronavirus compares to the flu.

Congressman Allen: “Yes, a couple things. One is, this virus is very infectious… it tends to affect people who are older than 60, and if you’re over 80—and really anybody who is compromised—is going to have a very difficult time surviving this virus. Right now the mortality rate is one out of fifty. Flu is about one out of a thousand. And again, we don’t have a vaccine for this virus. Based on those statistics and what we’ve seen happen in Italy, in Iran, in China, we do not want that to happen in the United States.

Chris from Dudley asked about travel bans within the United States.

Congressman Allen: “Currently there are no restrictions on who is allowed to fly. The CDC recommends that people who are higher risk, such as those over the age of 60 or those who are compromised with either heart disease, diabetes, lung disease, or other serious underlying conditions, avoid non-essential travel, such as long plane trips. Obviously, if you’re sick, I would not travel.

“The experts tell me that this thing will probably begin to subside when we get to warmer weather in, say about mid-June and that the risk will be pretty much gone—of spread—until October, and the only way it would come back in October is if someone still has it…. The thing that we want is the vaccine. Once we get that vaccine, we’re pretty much home-free. But that vaccine is probably not going to be available for, they’re saying, it may be a year, hopefully sooner.”

44s Rock · 03-13-2020, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidgeRunner

email from my Congressman:

WASHINGTON – Congressman Rick W. Allen (GA-12) held a telephone town hall Wednesday night to answer questions from residents of Georgia's 12th District about the coronavirus situation. Congressman Allen gave an update on steps the federal government is taking to keep Americans safe. For those who were unable to participate in the call, here are some of the highlights:

Blair from Swainsboro asked how the coronavirus compares to the flu.

Congressman Allen: “Yes, a couple things. One is, this virus is very infectious… it tends to affect people who are older than 60, and if you’re over 80—and really anybody who is compromised—is going to have a very difficult time surviving this virus. Right now the mortality rate is one out of fifty. Flu is about one out of a thousand. And again, we don’t have a vaccine for this virus. Based on those statistics and what we’ve seen happen in Italy, in Iran, in China, we do not want that to happen in the United States.

Chris from Dudley asked about travel bans within the United States.

Congressman Allen: “Currently there are no restrictions on who is allowed to fly. The CDC recommends that people who are higher risk, such as those over the age of 60 or those who are compromised with either heart disease, diabetes, lung disease, or other serious underlying conditions, avoid non-essential travel, such as long plane trips. Obviously, if you’re sick, I would not travel.

“The experts tell me that this thing will probably begin to subside when we get to warmer weather in, say about mid-June and that the risk will be pretty much gone—of spread—until October, and the only way it would come back in October is if someone still has it…. The thing that we want is the vaccine. Once we get that vaccine, we’re pretty much home-free. But that vaccine is probably not going to be available for, they’re saying, it may be a year, hopefully sooner.”

From what I gather here, it is age + respiratory issues that is the killer!

bearcatter · 03-13-2020, 07:38 AM

I don't believe that long time frame for a vaccine. From what I understand, creating vaccines has become pretty routine, following a set procedure that normally takes about a month or two.

I have to wonder how much, or how little, truth there is to all of this. There is no vaccine for exaggeration, half-truths, and outright lies. The only facts you get from today's media is that you can't trust any of their "facts".

44s Rock · 03-14-2020, 07:27 AM

Well, Gov Snake threw our State into chaos, closed all schools state wide for 6 weeks. I heard some college students are having to find temporary off campus housing, not sure if that was here though. The wife has to check in Monday to see if she is on furlough.

With snow day make up my granddaughter may not graduate in time to start college.

bearcatter · 03-14-2020, 08:56 AM

Just found out that Governor Blackface has our schools closed the next two weeks, and it could be extended. If not, they'll go back to school for one week, then out for a week on Spring Break.

Our nearest virus case, out of 30, is over a hundred miles away. Oh well, at least I won't have to fight school buses on my bus routes. Some of the "unemployed" passengers will have to stay home and make sure little Johnny doesn't end up in juvenile detention.

RidgeRunner · 03-15-2020, 05:15 AM

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Terry_P · 03-15-2020, 05:51 AM

Everyone got 3 truck loads of TP in case you're quarantined for 2 weeks.

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03-09-2020, 08:37 AM	#41
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	We now have our first cases, two, in Virginia. One is an 83 year old man in Fairfax VA ( D.C.) who just returned from a Nile cruise. The other is a Marine at Fort Belvoir (also D.C.). He had just returned from a "European assignment', was all the Pentagon said. I'm wondering about my bus job. There is a possibility of this virus shutting us down, but I understand they have insurance to cover our being paid, and their lost revenue. I hope I've heard right, third hand from a supervisor telling a co-worker.

03-09-2020, 12:48 PM	#42
Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,500	Supplemental Unemployment Benefits. You may have to file for UC and that makes up the difference between that and an agreed % of your weekly pay. Not sure how a city handles things.

03-09-2020, 03:59 PM	#43
RidgeRunner Senior Member Joined: Nov 2015 From: Buck Ridge, Georgia Posts: 3,441	On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that New York state currently has 142 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus, making it the state with the most confirmed cases in the U.S. Previously, Washington state had been the area with the most cases -- according to the Washington state Department of Health, there are 136 confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus.

03-10-2020, 09:35 AM	#44
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	On the morning radio news, reporting there are now enough numbers to say China's corona virus is in decline. New case totals are dropping, more coming out of quarantine than going in. So it has a roughly 50 day cycle. We are behind their first occurance, so have about 4-5 weeks to go until ours reverses. Maybe sooner. It was explained that each time it's passed on, it's weaker. It takes several exchanges from China to here.

03-10-2020, 03:03 PM	#45
Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,500	Went to WalMart this afternoon and in the main aisle in the grocery they had a huge sales display of and I swear it to be true.............................................. Corona Beer.

03-11-2020, 06:56 AM	#48
44s Rock Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,905	My daughter went to Costco for meds the other day, shoppers in Hazmat suits and people climbing racks to get at overflow stocks, it was nuts!

03-11-2020, 12:01 PM	#49
Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,500	There isn't a bottle of hand sanitizer to be had in Florida. I keep one in the car and use when I come out of a store, post office, etc. Have done that for years. Got some left but may not be enough to make it home at the end of this month. I'll go with plan B.

03-12-2020, 07:07 AM	#51
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	I've heard that this "new" coronavirus may have already been around for over a year. Each flu season, there are several types. The CDC tries to determine which one will be the most prevalent, and makes the flu shot for that one. They often get it wrong, but it still has reasonable effect on the different flu. The "new" virus may have been mixed in with the other types and gone unnoticed. Symptoms aren't that much different, and the random testing for types could have skipped it. So thousands may have already had it a year ago. With no overblown scary news, or panic attacks.

03-12-2020, 07:32 AM	#52
44s Rock Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,905	We are getting daily updates. As of yesterday, 385 confirmed cases in King County alone, our epicenter. Our Gov Snake informed us, he is consulting with the VP but it was real funny that the VP's report came the day before the Gov's conference call. How does that work? Guess the Gov is telepathic. Now, after the Genie is out of the bottle we are restricting large groups 250+ state withe and King county 100+ unless they pass a Heath Dept.t review. School closures are supposed to be under review the next two weeks. Now, all, "ALL" discussions on schools by medical professionals have been, closures are a bad ides! The youngest kids would be sent to day care centers or high risk grandparents and teens will do what teens automatically do! They congregate in groups, usually in Malls or regular hangouts. It is much better to have them in a controlled environment! Gee! An hour after yesterday's public announcement, most of King County's School Districts announced two week closures starting today! I just find it interesting that we had the first case in the US, the first deaths, 23 to date from the same facility I believe, and arguably the best health care and medical facilities ie the US if not the world with UofW / Harborview, Sweedish, Fred Hutch and research centers funded by Gates and Allen, and these people, for all of their bluster, were either not prepared or really botched it big time. This was not on the Feds, they had warning! I'm not sure if any of you watch the TV show The Resident but it might bring some of the problem into perspective. Our major east-side hospital facility near Life Care Center, not the one that actually received the patients, has their ER department screaming for supplies and staffing since this started, guess what managements response has been? Yep , just handle it, you have enough! Don't need no F-ing special gear! And we have been told for years how well trained our region has been trained, staffed and supplied to handle any sort of medical emergency or natural disaster! Sure makes one wounder, what happened?

03-12-2020, 10:27 AM	#53
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	Article on Associated Press today pointed out an overlooked statistic. China has diagnosed 80,000 cases, and 56,000 of those have recovered. About 3500 dead. The Chinese are heading back to normal. Doesn't sound so awful, huh?

03-12-2020, 11:00 AM	#54
RidgeRunner Senior Member Joined: Nov 2015 From: Buck Ridge, Georgia Posts: 3,441	email from my Congressman: WASHINGTON – Congressman Rick W. Allen (GA-12) held a telephone town hall Wednesday night to answer questions from residents of Georgia's 12th District about the coronavirus situation. Congressman Allen gave an update on steps the federal government is taking to keep Americans safe. For those who were unable to participate in the call, here are some of the highlights: Blair from Swainsboro asked how the coronavirus compares to the flu. Congressman Allen: “Yes, a couple things. One is, this virus is very infectious… it tends to affect people who are older than 60, and if you’re over 80—and really anybody who is compromised—is going to have a very difficult time surviving this virus. Right now the mortality rate is one out of fifty. Flu is about one out of a thousand. And again, we don’t have a vaccine for this virus. Based on those statistics and what we’ve seen happen in Italy, in Iran, in China, we do not want that to happen in the United States. Chris from Dudley asked about travel bans within the United States. Congressman Allen: “Currently there are no restrictions on who is allowed to fly. The CDC recommends that people who are higher risk, such as those over the age of 60 or those who are compromised with either heart disease, diabetes, lung disease, or other serious underlying conditions, avoid non-essential travel, such as long plane trips. Obviously, if you’re sick, I would not travel. “The experts tell me that this thing will probably begin to subside when we get to warmer weather in, say about mid-June and that the risk will be pretty much gone—of spread—until October, and the only way it would come back in October is if someone still has it…. The thing that we want is the vaccine. Once we get that vaccine, we’re pretty much home-free. But that vaccine is probably not going to be available for, they’re saying, it may be a year, hopefully sooner.”

03-13-2020, 07:38 AM	#56
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	I don't believe that long time frame for a vaccine. From what I understand, creating vaccines has become pretty routine, following a set procedure that normally takes about a month or two. I have to wonder how much, or how little, truth there is to all of this. There is no vaccine for exaggeration, half-truths, and outright lies. The only facts you get from today's media is that you can't trust any of their "facts".

03-14-2020, 07:27 AM	#57
44s Rock Senior Member Joined: Jan 2009 From: Far Western WA. Posts: 10,905	Well, Gov Snake threw our State into chaos, closed all schools state wide for 6 weeks. I heard some college students are having to find temporary off campus housing, not sure if that was here though. The wife has to check in Monday to see if she is on furlough. With snow day make up my granddaughter may not graduate in time to start college.

03-14-2020, 08:56 AM	#58
bearcatter Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Virginia Posts: 3,935	Just found out that Governor Blackface has our schools closed the next two weeks, and it could be extended. If not, they'll go back to school for one week, then out for a week on Spring Break. Our nearest virus case, out of 30, is over a hundred miles away. Oh well, at least I won't have to fight school buses on my bus routes. Some of the "unemployed" passengers will have to stay home and make sure little Johnny doesn't end up in juvenile detention.

03-15-2020, 05:51 AM	#60
Terry_P Super Moderator Joined: Apr 2008 From: Where it's warm Posts: 10,500	Everyone got 3 truck loads of TP in case you're quarantined for 2 weeks.

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